About Sigma

I haven’t read anything about it, but isn’t sigma supposed to be pronounced “sinma”, or “sima”? After all, gamma before my becomes nasal.

Thanks. And… hello everybody :wink: It’s been a time since I posted something here.

Surely you mean “nu” instead of “my”.

I do not know about the pronounciation of sigma.

And it’s good to see you back :smiley:

Probably Mu.

Gamma plus velar becomes Nu.
I had not heard that Gamma before Mu becomes nasal, but that does not mean that it is not true.

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Well, I guess it is Gamma before velars and nasals. Thanks.
(I should have written "Gamma plus velar becomes nasal not Nu)

It looks Pharr is totally wrong, at least as concerns γ before μ and ν. It is clearly a “g”, and in Modern Greek became a voiced χ. Maybe this was also the case in Old Greek.

I’m relying in Pharr only, that’s why I wanted to ask :confused:

That gives us reasons to be here and makes us proud. To correct wrong assumptions; by Pharr, Alen et al. Better rely on us-

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I am curious to read those evidences, please quote them here, if it’s possible. To me, it sounds absurb. Gamma before mu can stand only as gamma, or be redued to a double mu, than spoken as mu. N before M is unstable. In your examples, there we have a vowel between G and M, which became silent and G turned to M. Do not get confuse with γκ, γχ or γγ, this is a different case. In cases where G before M is a nasal NG (not many cases, I can think none at this moment), soon we saw a double M. In any case, σιγμα is pronounced sigma.

Yeah.

In a few minutes I will be leaving to attend that great Madison Tradition, “Taste of Madison” which I myself call “Taste of Pork on a Stick.” So more evidence will have to wait until this evening.

However, I would take it as a great kindness if in that time you actually present the evidence for your case, with examples rather than assertion. I would also like to know how you account for the fact that the nasal sound in -γγ- ended up with the name ἄγμα.

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In the Greek Church and when reading the Bible (both Old and New testament), they kept ancient words and we can follow its pronunciation. GM stood always as GM.

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συν+μαθητης =συμμαθητης never συνμαθητης
συν+μαχος=συμμαχος never συνμαχος

There are no words with NM.

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Let’s try this: When the very few kids who were getting any kind of education were learning the letters of the Greek alphabet, how do you think they called σίγμα? :slight_smile:

Mmmmmmmmmm…pork…mmmmmmmmmmm.

But seriously folks! I learned sigma pronounced with the G sound. Although αγγελος was always pronounced angelos. Of course…I learned Koine first, so I might just be of no help at all.

Perhaps William, belly full of pork and pints, can shed some more light on this for us. :slight_smile: