Hmm. To make things simpler for those who take all things literally…
American Empire. It stays the same. It continues to oppress regardless of who wins the election. Either Bush wins, things trudge on as they are or Kerry wins and things trudge on as they are (although we re-enter the Kyoto Protocol). Either way, the empire will conquer (Iraq) and continue to flourish. And those of us here will remain under the chains of the tyranny of the majority. The rest of you just get the chains and some scraps shoved under the table. Bon Appetit!
Allright, I will admit to an innate tendency to direct ill-will my way (usually when I’m being misunderstood), so I will kindly revert to proper newbie etiquette and make more posts that are OT with the board. Politics is not usually something I like to discuss among friends.
[qoute]conquering is the same as flourishing? [/qoute]
sometimes, not always. This time the latter.
Why do you say that? Last time I checked, everybody said it was terrorists.
Not according to Michael Moore it ain’t.
Either way, the empire will conquer (Iraq) and continue to flourish. And those of us here will remain under the chains of the tyranny of the majority. The rest of you just get the chains and some scraps shoved under the table. Bon Appetit!
Quite a dark statement, isn’t it? But I think we oughta enjoy what we can.
I think that you are as wrong as you are with your latin Dacicus. The evidence is overwhelming, not from Michael Moore as he has turned into an unreliable source somewhat due to his now infamous bias and hatred of Bush, but from a neutral documentary programme on good old UK tv showing bush and his reaction. How he planned it. But 1 month before the attack they took out insurance on the towers. That is odd. And the way in which he was informed so quickly then continued to read to the little kids, perhaps he was exerting himself entirely I do not know, but it was obviously planned and known beforehand. One can tell. Oooh surprise. I think not.
er that was the plan, so it’s not really ‘regardless’ I suppose, for it was the intention to milk it as it was caused. Did you see the terrorists going shopping video. That was funny and disturbing. How odd.
When I first read your comment I smiled and thought:“There is our bishop again, shooting from the lip”, but I find it disturbing that you meant it.
Maybe the mayor of NY at that time blew up the towers. After all he gained great popularity after 9/11. Or here’s a thought; It was the Canadians, they wanted Bush to look Bad.
Or we could just take Bin Laden’s words at face-value.
Another thing that bothers me is that so many people used to bash Bush for being stupid and not smart enough to run the country. Now all of a sudden he is this scheming mastermind capable of manipulating an entire nation.
I think the author made a good point when he said that. So which one do you guys think it is: stupid or scheming mastermind.
I don’t believe Bush planned those attacks, to think that is not ridiculous, everything is possible, if it was planned it would have been his advisors and Bush just would have nodded. I don’t believe though that they planned it or that Bush would have given his consent, but I have no proof of the opposite, I just don’t think it likely. But it is very likely that they had some indications of a planned attack, it’s proven that there were many hints, but nothing happened. Bin Laden was also offered to the US by Syrian (think it was Syria at least , hate my useless memory ) before the attacks, but apparently the CIA didn’t want to cooperate with the Syrian intelligence agency. That just shows how useless the CIA is and how all of this combined just had to lead to terrorists being able to carry out such attacks.
There had been plans drawn up to attack Iraq before September the 11th I’ve heard. That doesn’t surprise me, but it doesn’t mean that they wanted to blow up the World Trade centre to declare war on Iraq, planning the war was a hobby and they were probably surprised but also very glad to have found the opportunity to attack Iraq, even though Iraq of course had nothing to do with terrorists or weapons of mass destruction.
The thing is that probably nothing much will change on a great scale is Kerry is elected, but what it will do is at least show the world that the US people do care, that they won’t re-elect a president who lead an unjust war. If Bush wins that means that the American people agree with him, and America will totally loose the respect of any who still have some for the country.
haha testicular fortitude you’d better copyright that one. And obviously Bush could not do it alone, he had all his friends helping him, many of whom probably studied classics and are in high positions for their scholastic achievements.
You forgot the best one!
“our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we. they never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we”. A Freudian slip of the tongue? That would strengthen Episcopus’ case.
Me, I agree with whoever said that Bush didn’t coordinate the attacks but DID disgustingly take advantage of it. But then, everybody did…
I certainly don’t LIKE Bush, but I don’t trust Kerry either. He might noisy about Bush’s mistakes and all that crap, but he’s not going to take any steps to reverse what Bush has already done.
If memory serves, Clinton had the option of taking out several of the most wanted terrorist leaders (agencies were in place a waiting the go ahead) but not wanting to interrupt his golf game or the economy never ordered the strikes.
Also to blame Bush for the 9/11 attacks just because he benifited from them is equatted to saying he caused the hurricanes in Florida so he could rescue the people and win votes. It is the job of the president to act in the face of a national emergency, andd it would only be a bad presidennt that doesn’t benefit from a national crisis.
It is more than just rhetoric, the information came from the book Dereliction of Duty by the soldier that was near Clinton at all times because his job was to carry the breifcase with all the nuke launch codes.
All presidents can be attacked for their policy decisions, but the truth is all presidents do their job and the basis of American and apparently global politics is that no president will ever satisfy all opponents or avoid all rumors.
Politics is not usually something I like to discuss among friends.
