Everyone’s opinion is welcome here.
Is their a chart online maybe that could help me with ‘This/That/Those?’ and it’s several different forms.
But anyway.. to my rant.
Well, it’s actually a two for one special, but anyway, I am no scholar nor do I know latin like the back of my hand. but I have heard alot around such forums. ‘Get a basic foundation on Vocabulary first’. which, i personally dont agree with. I don’t think know a word is going to help you until you know how to DECLINE the word.
for example. lets say i was reading a simple sentence. such as ‘The girl et the ball’
puella et pila
Its a pretty simple. i know Puella= Girl, et=and, and pila=ball
but if I were to throw in a verb, and make the ball accusative present tense. ‘The girl throws the ball’
puella pilam iacit
now PILA turns in PILAM because it had declined.
and personally, its hard to see and and understand anything when you only know the word most likely in nom. sing. form.
You know what I mean?
And Latin is less about the language, and more about the culture it came from if you ask me. The culture of the romans is JUST AS important as learning the grammar and such. Learning how the romans interacted with people on a daily basis. greetings, insults, all these types of things can help you decide the ‘attitude’ behind a word. for example. someone mentioned not too long ago that there are many words meaning ‘to kill’. but because of the roman nature, some were used more to specify. such as, to commit suicide, to kill someone , to hurt. etc.
Also. I really would appreciate if someone could tell when quia, and quod. which is to be used. I have seen this around the forum alot. I’m just looking for a straight answer =]
You know what I mean?
no
Also. I really would appreciate if someone could tell when quia, and quod. which is to be used. I have seen this around the forum alot. I’m just looking for a straight answer =]
the causal quod is preferred when the verb of the clause is one that indicates affection, feeling, sense: examples: gaudeo quod tibi profui; dolebam quod socium amiseram.
quod is also preferred when the inforamation is given on the authorithy of a third party, in which case the verb goes to subjuntive. e.g.: germani bellum indixere quod romani mali esset
otherwise use quia. (quia in the above functions may appear but they are very rare, except for didatical books. and the examples given (EDIT: by reference grammars in the literature) are always the same.)
for example. someone mentioned not too long ago that there are many words meaning ‘to kill’. but because of the roman nature, some were used more to specify. such as, to commit suicide, to kill someone , to hurt. et
good books always explain the differences.
Brent
I continue to admire your enthusiasm. By all means rant all you want!
You wrote the following:
You know what I mean?
Of course I know what you mean. You meant just what you said. Omnia quae scripsisti mihi clarissima erat. Quoque nobis obtulisti haec
And Latin is less about the language, and more about the culture it came from if you ask me. The culture of the romans is JUST AS important as learning the grammar and such. Learning how the romans interacted with people on a daily basis. greetings, insults, all these types of things can help you decide the ‘attitude’ behind a word.
As I am sure you realize, language and culture are not different. No language no culture. Keep your focus on the language. You are young, so aspire to speak the language as well - don’t just be someone who parses and translates. You won’t know it until you can express your own thoughts in latin both in writing and conversationally.
Even if you pursue something else as an adult, please stay with latin as long as you live. You won’t regret it. And, realize this: Roman culture is only a part of the history of the latin language. The latin language has had a living history of 2600 years. After the middle ages, latin became the universal language of the elites of all Europe - especially during the 15, 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries.. Luther wrote his theses in latin. Many important philosophical, historical, and scientific works were composed in latin.
The loss of this system (the decay set in about the time of the french revolution) has been very unfortunate for western civ in my opinion. Anyway Latin literature did not disappear after the Romans and despite the crumbling of the older system of education latin continues to be used as a literary language down to our own times. Several years ago an epic history of mexico was published in vergilian verse. There is one guy in Africa who raps in latin - his own compositions as well as those of catullus . Latin is not dead .. immo vero vivit! Don’t let your teacher restrict your studies to the romans because that is only a small part of the story.
You asked about some place you could find paradigms. Google around a bit and I am sure you will find some great charts. Besides charts and grammar aids there are many other great resources out there which I will refer you to later if you are still interested. Valeas quam optime consodalis!