Attributive vs Predicate Adj

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If ‘Famous is what the boy desires to be’ has the adjective ‘famous’
acted on by the verb ‘is’ which makes it a predicate adjective

then the followingn should be true

The grass was eaten by the purple cow

‘Purple’ is the adjective and is not acted on by ‘eaten’

therefore
‘famous’ is acted on by ‘is’ (predicate adj)
‘purple’ is not acted on by ‘eaten’ (attributive adj)

correct?

thanks

holli is pissed

2

Yes. // Ut dicis.

It does not follow. // Non sequitur.

3

Purple has nothing to do with eaten. Purple is a describing the cow, which is merely the agent in the sentence and not grammatically connected by the verb in any way. This is because you are using a passive verb, where the subject receives the action.

4



You said ‘yes’

but now your saying the following is not true (or is non-sequitur humor)

#1 ‘famous’ is acted on by ‘is’ (predicate adj)
#2 ‘purple’ is not acted on by ‘eaten’ (attributive adj)

#1 and #2 above statements are correct yes?


thanks

5

#1 is true // Primum verum est
#2 is true // et secundum
but #2 is not true BECAUSE #1 is true. They are independent,—nothing to do with one another.
Secundum autem non videt primum. Vera sunt cum summâ libertate.

6

What you are saying is that in completely different conversation devoid of any relation
to one another both sentences are correct as to there relation to when the adjective is
acted upon by the verb

but however if you put the sentences back to back in the same paragraph that the
relation between the adjetive and the verbs is not the same?

i do not understand why this would be true but if it is i will take it at face value

thanks

7

If I understand you correctly, yes: “not the same”. In the first sentence, there is a direct relationship between “is” and “famous”, but there is none (maybe only indirect) in the second between “eaten” and “purple”
Si te benè intellego, te rectè dicere credo. Primâ in sententiâ, est nexus inter “is” et “famous” anglicé; in secundâ, caret inter “eaten” et “purple”, nisi iste generis obliqui.

8

just out of curiosity can you give me the merging of these two
sentences

‘Famous is what the boy desires to be’ + ‘The grass was eaten by the
purple cow’

it definately cannot be as simple as

‘Famous is what the boy desires to be because the grass was eaten
by the purple cow’

can you give an example of merging them so that they do not
neccessarily show there normal relation of the adjective acting
on the verb?

thanks

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can you give an example of merging them so that they do not neccessarily show there normal relation of the adjective acting on the verb?

Sorry, I can’t because I don’t understand. My mind is blank.
Me paenitet, non possum, quia non te intellego. Mens mea vacua est.

10

As seperate entities both these sentences have the same relation between adjective
and verb:

  1. the purple cow ate the grass
  2. famous is what the boy desires to be

what i would like to know is can you ram the 2 sentences together into one giant sentence
and then what would it be considered grammatically?

thanks

11

In English: The purple cow ate the grass and famous is what the boy desires to be. Grammatically, this is called a complex sentence.
Latinè: Vacca purpurea gramen depavit et puer clarus esse desiderat. Quae sententia grammaticè intricata vocatur.