Ablative of place? LLPSI, CAPITULUM TERTIUM DECIMUM, p99, l96

Salvete,

There’s a bit (it might be a subordinate clause but I’m a bit in the dark about that as well) which goes ‘alta nive operitur tota Terra et lacus glacie operientur,’, which puzzles me.

I’m aware that the intention is to show the use of the ablative to represent a point in space. At least that’s what the ‘companion’ tells us the bit immediately preceding, is about.

The word alta, for example. I am thinking that this is an example of the use of the ‘ablative of place’ without a preposition. Am I correct?

I feel the meaning of the piece is clear enough, but digging a bit deeper, I’m struggling to put a handle on the syntax? I’d very much appreciate some pointers, perhaps with reference to Allen and Greenough, to help me develop my understanding of the use of the ablative.

Thanks everyone for your patience.

These are ablative of the mean (ablativus instrumenti): The whole Earth is covered with/by…lakes will be covered with/by…

Salve unanime,

What would be the meaning with an ‘ablative of place’? “All the ground is covered at deep snow”?

Looking at LLPSI, it seems the information you need was introduced, if briefly, in lesson VI, around l. 70: is equo vehitur. Iulius lectica vehitur.

Shenoute has hit the nail on the head.

You could also look at the companion p 47 and p 59. Rather than worrying too much about what sort of ablative is being used, in the first instance its enough to remember that the ablative can often mean “with” or “by”. The passive should alert you to look out for an “agent”. Do you remember why there is no preposition?

Altā is an adjective which describes nive.

Thanks for the excellent pointers and help. I had misunderstood the meaning after all and was trying to read the word, alta, as ‘at height’ rather than ‘by deep’. Deep does make a lot more sense and I wonder that I missed it but never mind. Surely there is a lesson, in this, in itself.

I always have to think about that word because of its double meaning. You are not alone!