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The Masoretic Text and the LXX are quite different here:
11 ἡ πλευρὰ ἡ ὑποκάτω πέντε πήχεων ἐν πήχει τὸ πλάτος αὐτῆς, καὶ τὸ μέσον ἕξ, καὶ ἡ τρίτη ἑπτὰ ἐν πήχει τὸ πλάτος αὐτῆς· ὅτι διάστημα ἔδωκεν τῷ οἴκῳ κυκλόθεν ἔξωθεν τοῦ οἴκου, ὅπως μὴ ἐπιλαμβάνωνται τῶν τοίχων τοῦ οἴκου.
Swete, H. B. (1909). The Old Testament in Greek: According to the Septuagint (3 Kgdms 6:10–11). Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press.
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I Kings 6: 11-13 is a long minus (text omitted) in the Greek version. This isn’t uncommon. You will run into these periodically.
The Septuagint and the Text of the Old Testament
peter j. gentry
https://www.ibr-bbr.org/files/bbr/BBR_2006b_01-Gentry.pdf
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Here is a similar construction:
ῥῆμα Κυρίου ἐγένετο πρὸς Ἠλειοὺ
Swete, H. B. (1909). The Old Testament in Greek: According to the Septuagint (3 Kgdms 18:1). Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press.
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Mindy,
1Pet. 1:25 τὸ δὲ ῥῆμα κυρίου μένει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα. τοῦτο δέ ἐστιν τὸ ῥῆμα τὸ εὐαγγελισθὲν εἰς ὑμᾶς
Is this what you are looking for? Not clear what you are after.
“The word of the Lord came to Elijah…”
1Kings 12:22 καὶ ἐγένετο λόγος κυρίου πρὸς Σαμαιαν ἄνθρωπον τοῦ θεοῦ λέγων
1Kings 13:20 καὶ ἐγένετο αὐτῶν καθημένων ἐπὶ τῆς τραπέζης καὶ ἐγένετο λόγος κυρίου πρὸς τὸν προφήτην τὸν ἐπιστρέψαντα αὐτὸν
1Kings 16:1 καὶ ἐγένετο λόγος κυρίου ἐν χειρὶ Ιου υἱοῦ Ανανι πρὸς Βαασα
1Kings 18:1 ¶ Καὶ ἐγένετο μεθ᾿ ἡμέρας πολλὰς καὶ ῥῆμα κυρίου ἐγένετο πρὸς Ηλιου ἐν τῷ ἐνιαυτῷ τῷ τρίτῳ λέγων Πορεύθητι καὶ ὄφθητι τῷ Αχααβ, καὶ δώσω ὑετὸν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον τῆς γῆς.
1Kings 12:22 καὶ ἐγένετο λόγος κυρίου πρὸς Σαμαιαν ἄνθρωπον τοῦ θεοῦ λέγων
ויהי דבר האלהים אל־שׁמעיה אישׁ־האלהים לאמר
1Kings 12:22
ו ו Particle conjunction and
יהי היה Verb qal wawConsecutive third masculine singular apocopated to be
דבר דבר Noun common masculine singular > construct > word, speech
ה ה Particle article the
אלהים אלהים Noun common masculine plural God
אל־ אל Particle preposition to, toward
שׁמעיה שׁמעיה Noun properName Shemaiah
אישׁ־ אישׁ Noun common masculine singular man
ה ה Particle article the
אלהים אלהים Noun common masculine plural God
ל ל Particle preposition to
אמר אמר־1 Verb qal infinitiveConstruct to say
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Mindy,
Note the salient elements bolded and highlighted in my previous post. ויהי = Καὶ ἐγένετο. This a narrative connection which is all over the Hebrew Bible.
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Clause initial (upfront) καί εγένετο εγένετο are frequently found in Luke’s Gospel, particularly in the portions with no parallel in Mark.
A New Testament portion to match what?
Matt. 24:1 Καὶ ἐξελθὼν ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἀπὸ τοῦ ἱεροῦ ἐπορεύετο, καὶ προσῆλθον οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ ἐπιδεῖξαι αὐτῷ τὰς οἰκοδομὰς τοῦ ἱεροῦ. 2 ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· οὐ βλέπετε ταῦτα πάντα; ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, οὐ μὴ ἀφεθῇ ὧδε λίθος ἐπὶ λίθον ὃς οὐ καταλυθήσεται.
John 2:19 ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· λύσατε τὸν ναὸν τοῦτον καὶ ἐν τρισὶν ἡμέραις ἐγερῶ αὐτόν. 20 εἶπαν οὖν οἱ Ἰουδαῖοι· τεσσεράκοντα καὶ ἓξ ἔτεσιν οἰκοδομήθη ὁ ναὸς οὗτος, καὶ σὺ ἐν τρισὶν ἡμέραις ἐγερεῖς αὐτόν; 21 ἐκεῖνος δὲ ἔλεγεν περὶ τοῦ ναοῦ τοῦ σώματος αὐτοῦ. 22 ὅτε οὖν ἠγέρθη ἐκ νεκρῶν, ἐμνήσθησαν οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ ὅτι τοῦτο ἔλεγεν, καὶ ἐπίστευσαν τῇ γραφῇ καὶ τῷ λόγῳ ὃν εἶπεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς.
You’re suggesting using John to interpret and Matthew? Okay, I see where you’re going with this. Yes, this is a regular practice in New Testament interpretation, both ancient and modern. It’s more common in biblical theology and preaching than in the historical critical method.
At this point I could go off on a long rant concerning post-enlightenment secular biblical studies but this isn’t the forum for that discussion.
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Mindy,
1Kings 7:33 ἐν τῷ περιοίκῳ τοῦ Ιορδάνου ἐχώνευσεν αὐτὰ ὁ βασιλεὺς ἐν τῷ πάχει τῆς γῆς ἀνὰ μέσον Σοκχωθ καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον Σιρα.
1Kings 7:32 οὐκ ἦν σταθμὸς τοῦ χαλκοῦ, οὗ ἐποίησεν πάντα τὰ ἔργα ταῦτα, ἐκ πλήθους σφόδρα· οὐκ ἦν τέρμα τῷ σταθμῷ τοῦ χαλκοῦ.
I Kings 7: 46a בככר הירדן
1Kings 7:33 ἐν τῷ περιοίκῳ τοῦ Ιορδάνου
Does this work from your location? I am talking to David Instone-Brewer about accsess to STEP from China.
https://www.stepbible.org/?q=version=ESV
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Mindy,
ἐν τῷ περιοίκῳ τοῦ Ιορδάνου) NOT = in the plain
περίοικος,-ος,-ον+ A 3-5-1-0-0-9
Gn 19:25,29; Dt 1:7; JgsB 1:27(quater)dwelling round ; ἡ περίοικος (χώρα) country round about Gn 19:25; ὁ περίοικος region round about 1 Kgs 7:33(46); τὰ περίοικα territories JgsB 1:27; οἱ περίοικοι neighbours Dt 1:7 LEH[1]
Follow the link I gave you to STEP. Hover or click on the word περιοίκῳ. STEP will provide you solutions to all such questions. It takes only a little time to get proficient with it. STEP uses LSJ and NT meanings for words. So occasionally adjustments need to be made for Greek OT. περίοικος is an example, neighbor → neighborhood, region.
[1]A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, ed. by J. Lust, E. Eynikel, and K. Hauspie, in cooperation with G. Chamberlain.
© 1992, 1997 by Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart.
Mindy,
I took the time to check how every occurrence of בקעה in the Hebrew Bible was tranlated into Old Greek (Rahlfs). Only found one exception to πεδίον.
Deut. 34:3 καὶ τὴν ἔρημον καὶ τὰ περίχωρα Ιεριχω, πόλιν φοινίκων, ἕως Σηγωρ.
This might suggest the translator encountered a different Hebrew word at Deut. 34:3.
The passage 1Kings 7:46 involves a different Hebrew word: ככר
n.f. a round: hence 1. a round district. 2. a round loaf. 3. a round weight, talent —
- the round (or oval) > esp. of the Jordan valley. > > BDB
1Kings 7:46 בככר הירדן
1Kings 7:33 ἐν τῷ περιοίκῳ τοῦ Ιορδάνου
“In the country round about the Jordan” (STEP LXX “AB” Translation)
postscript:
To search in STEP for every occurrence of the Hebrew word: ככר you display 1Kings 7:46 in Hebrew, Greek, ESV, Chinese, click on the word and then click “search for this word” link in the vocabulary sidebar. Step will display every verse with Hebrew word and it’s modern translation (ESV, Chinese) equivalent highlighted. STEP doesn’t currently have the database for linking the Hebrew word with the Greek word.