Testing fonts

[Diane]

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[Bert]

I don’t know how it looks on your screen but it looks good from where I’m sitting.

[Yhevhe]

You sure have a hard time with this…

I see it right too.

[Diane]

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[Paul]

@Diane

Help.

Moving right along, I am now trying to get into GTSS using Firefox and the instructions Bert just sent me. Ok, able to sign in. Author diane, lesson 11. And Bob’s your uncle. I am in and I can see Greek. In the exact same browser window that I cannot see Greek in on the Forum. The encoding is Western European ISO 8859-1

Well, I suppose if I can see Greek in GTSS and everyone else can see what I type in betacode as Greek this is going to work. Surely would like to know what is going on with the encoding.

Hi Diane,

If it’s any comfort, neither can I get Firefox fonts to work properly with SPIonic. Firefox 1.0.2 under Windows 2000 simply will not show Greek glyphs - at least not in response to SPIonic. But GTSS lessons (which don’t use SPIonic) look fine.

BTW: the proper encoding for textkit’s pages is iso-8859-1.

Cordially,

Paul

[Yhevhe]

I’m using Firefox 1.0.4 under Win XP (Christo?) and I can see the SPIonic…

[Diane]

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[Paul]

Hi Diane,

@Diane

What I am seeing in GTSS is partially Greek glyphs and partially question marks.

Have tried changing code page and it makes no difference.

While viewing a GTSS lesson, one that shows this ‘partial’ phenomenon, starting with the Firefox toolbar, navigate as follows:

Tools → Options → General → Fonts & Colors

read me the settings for:

Fonts for:
Proportional:
Serif:
Sans Serif:

and the value of the checkbox titled ‘Always use my fonts’. Thanks.

@Diane

@Yhevhe

I’m using Firefox 1.0.4 under Win XP (Christo?) and I can see the SPIonic…

In the forum? In GTSS? Could you please tell me exactly what settings you are using? I am sure there is some small setting that will solve the whole problem.

There may not be such a setting. I neglected to mention in my first post that I can see Greek glyphs from SPIonic when under Windows XP. It seems to me not unlikely that under 98 and 2000 Firefox has a bug in its handling of SPIonic.

Cordially,

Paul

[Diane]

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[Yhevhe]

One of the two reasons I just changed from Win 98 to XP was because I couldn’t see certain greek glyphs, just small boxes, more or less like your question marks problem. I really used to get mad when I couldn’t see greek properly

[Diane]

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[Yhevhe]

I changed to XP for that same problem… Every letter with an accent didn’t show, and I needed unicode. I think that was my only choice…

[Paul]

Hi Diane,

@Diane

Experiments with GTSS
Have just clicked on every word with a question mark in it and looked at the Perseus lookup tool. Apparently the ? is when there is an accent over a letter. Does not seem to matter which accent or which letter, vowel or consonant.

What you describe is definitely a font issue. Whatever the effective font is, it is not able to map characters in the ‘extended greek’ range (e.g., those with certain diacritics) to the proper glyph. Hence the the ‘?’.

Do you have any of these fonts:

arial unicode ms,
palatino linotype,
georgia greek,
cardo,
galilee unicode gk,
gentium,
vusillus old face italic

I’m sure forum members can suggest others.

@Diane

Part of the problem is that in Preferences it says that the font used is arial unicode ms and I don’t seem to have that font. Cannot figure out how to change this font in GTSS.
Apparently I cannot override the font set in GTSS. Since I don’t have that font and cannot figure out how to change the font in GTSS Firefox must be making its best guess, which is not working.

To update your GTSS preferences:

1. click on ‘Preferences’ tab to activate its tabspace
2. change the ‘font family’ value for the first 3 preferences (lesson text, your translation, another’s translation) to the name of a unicode font.
3. right-click on the ‘Preferences’ tab to raise its context menu
4. click on the entry that reads ‘Update Preferences’

Cordially,

Paul

[Diane]

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[Diane]

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[Yhevhe]

Maybe what you need is Paul’s AGTM

[Paul]

@Diane

YEA! YEA! YEA!

Can’t type it because his keyboard utility does not work with my 98 SE. Tried typing into WordPad using Cardo font, see Greek glyphs, copy them into GTSS, see Roman alphabet.

If I use Beta Code to post Pharr Exercise 12 will you guys be able to figure out what I am doing?

Hi Diane,

I am happy about your progress!

I do recall hearing somewhere that Windows 98 and ME do not fully support entering Polytonic Greek, even by means of, say, Tavultesoft’s Keyman program.

But GTSS understands betacode so you should have no difficulty entering the E->G exercises.

Cordially,

Paul

[Bert]

@Paul

But GTSS understands betacode so you should have no difficulty entering the E->G exercises.

Cordially,

Paul

Betacode being so close to SPIonic makes me think that entering the lesson in SPIonic in wordpad and then pasting it in GTSS should work as well.

[Paul]

@Bert

Betacode being so close to SPIonic makes me think that entering the lesson in SPIonic in wordpad and then pasting it in GTSS should work as well.

Unfortunately (or maybe it’s for the best), GTSS wants proper betacode, e.g., final sigma is ‘s’, not ‘j’ and caps are done with asterisk, e.g., *)axilleu/s.

Cordially,

Paul

[Diane]

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