E-mailed Annis. Basically, they have not done a group in a while. Annis will e-mail Jeff, the founder of textkit, to start a mailing list. With this route, the group will only be open to people signed up. Annis said it will take a few days.
Well, now let’s wait, hehehehe. Thank you. ![]()
Received this e-mail from Annis.
"Ok, the mailing list exists now.
Visit this site to sign up: http://textkit.com/mailman/listinfo/ovid-a_textkit.com
To prevent spam problems, subscriptions need to be approved, but that shouldn’t ever take more than a few hours (longer when I’m asleep)."
Sooooo, are we still on for the Saturday after next? I have signed up for the list.
I have also signed up. i’m not sure what to post however, eventhough i am the chairman for the first week!
I sent a test post to the (Pharr) list, but apparently it didn’t go through. ![]()
:O, it’s true, has everybody signed in? I did it, so, Kasper is the teacher of the week
, Jahaire, also you will participate in this group? ![]()
Not a chance. My Latin is VERY limited. I was just commenting on the whole of the issue – that the list isn’t accepting posts yet.
I guess we can use the mailing list and another site created by Annis, www.scholiastae.org, there we can write annotations on the text, what do you think? so we can at the end show a well fully-annoted text. ![]()
Hey that’s a good idea Ivan - although we should probably get Will’s approval before we do so.
now still, what are we posting? Does the weekly teacher post his/her translation, and some comments? how does the rest respond to it?
I think that weekly teacher can post his annotations to the text and maybe a version, the other participants can comment and write their own notes. When I say “translation” I mean “paraphrase”, a more artistic or accurate translation requires a longer effort, particularly for those who doesn’t speak english as native language. What do you think about it? For notes, as I’ve said, if we use the scholiastae.org site, we can make something like this http://www.scholiastae.org/scholia/Hesiod/Theogony/1-115, for translation could be Google Docs. ![]()
Yes, yes, please keep translations away from Scholiastae! ![]()
But otherwise, by all means. Scholiastae exists exactly for this sort of undertaking.
Will, re your query (in the open forum) about a suitable text, I am using the text from the Latin Library. The site owner states that:
“I have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that the Latin texts presented here are in the Public Domain. If any copyright is claimed, please advise us immediately so that we may remove the offending text from the Library.”
Apparenlty then, the text is in the public domain, although i have no idea about how reliable it is. Others may have better sources/ideas.
They seem trustworthy.
Which book, and how many lines for the opening sessions?
And it seems like the mailing lists aren’t getting set up properly (they exist, but don’t seem to receive mail). I’ll have to dig into that.
We are doing Book I of the Metamorphoses (for now). The schedule is as follows:
April 4: Lines 1-150
April 11: Lines 151 313
April 18: Lines 314-416
April 25: Lines 417-568
May 2 : Lines 569-667
May 13: Lines 668-775
Thanks for sorting out the mailing list!
So I’ve loaded Metamorphoses Book One into Scholiastae. I’ve written a small program (Kasper — in Python!) to convert the Latin Library’s very clean HTML into my wiki markup (well, except book 13, which goes insane about half way through). I’ll add a few more books in the next few days.
I generally want about 100 lines of verse a page, give or take to match logical breaks, though I’ll break things up if it gets more than about 120 lines. So, your aggressive reading schedule doesn’t match page breaks on Scholiastae.
In order for comments to appear on the same page (in terms of scrolling through a long page, I mean) as the line they’re commenting on, each page should further be broken into sections of about 20 lines. I have not done that to the Ovid text. I’ll let you guys decide where sensible breaks should happen. It’s very easy to do, just add a closing tag after a line, then put a new opening tag with the correct line number before the next line, . Do a “view source” on the Theogony for an example:
αἵ νύ ποθ᾽ Ἡσίοδον καλὴν ἐδίδαξαν ἀοιδήν,//
ἄρνας ποιμαίνονθ᾽ Ἑλικῶνος ὕπο ζαθέοιο.//
</scholia-verse>
<scholia-verse startline="24">
τόνδε δέ με πρώτιστα θεαὶ πρὸς μῦθον ἔειπον,//
Μοῦσαι Ὀλυμπιάδες, κοῦραι Διὸς αἰγιόχοιο· <!-- 25 --> //
I’ve also left HTML comments in the Ovid text which have line numbers, to make finding things while editing easier.
Thanks a lot Annis, now let’s start this weekend. ![]()
Is the List working yet? I have applied but have had trouble posting. Annis said in the other Study Group Forum that the lists are not working yet. Soooo, I guess we will have to push the start date back?
I’ve received a reminder from the mailing list, anybody send it? :S
Hey guys, i’ve been trying to post to the list, but i keep getting an error message. Have you encountered the same problems?