Plato's Meno 80d - question on grammar

Greek Learning Greek
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This is my first time “posting a new topic.” The question is on the first sentence of this passage (see subject line for reference):

καὶ τίνα τρόπον ζητήσεις, ὦ Σώκρατες, τοῦτο ὃ μὴ οἶσθα τὸ παράπαν ὅτι ἐστίν; ποῖον γὰρ ὧν οὐκ οἶσθα προθέμενος ζητήσεις; ἢ εἰ καὶ ὅτι μάλιστα ἐντύχοις αὐτῷ, πῶς εἴσῃ ὅτι τοῦτό ἐστιν ὃ σὺ οὐκ ᾔδησθα;

Question: Am I right to think that the verb ζητήσεις is here taking two direct objects, both in the accusative case, namely, τρόπον and τοῦτο? If yes, are there general rules on when a verb can take two direct objects (here perhaps having to do with τίνα)? If no, i.e. at least one of them is not a direct object but something else, what is it?

If it would be easier to send me to reference books, what would be the topic or section I should be looking at? I have Mastronarde’s Introduction to Attic Grammar and Herber Weir Smyth’s Greek Grammar.

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I think that τίνα τρόπον should be read as “in which way?” here, so rather adverbially than as an object to ζητήσεις. See point II.2 in LSJ: http://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/lsj/#eid=108477&context=lsj&action=hw-list-click

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Also, you could read chapter 17, p. 142 in Mastronarde (2nd ed.), about the adverbial accusative.

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ἀπόλλυται

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Thank you both. That was very helpful. (I don’t know if this site discourages posts that don’t add substance. I trust moderation would let me know if that is the case.)

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As in real life, it is amicable to acknowledge the help one has received on Textkit, too, and this is indeed permitted, nay, encouraged.

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Exactly. Common sense and politeness are safe guides. For new users, a short introduction in the Open Board is also recommended.