Thanks for the tip and for enabling the morphological analysis tool. I like the dictionary function too. But concerning the search tool, I don’t like it the way it is. If you want to search a specific author (or some specifics authors), you need to select it (them) and save as a corpus. This is not practical. It would be better to have a direct access to the author/works list and be able to select one or more author/works and them make a search without having to save a corpus. The way you navigate through the texts (browse to a specific passage etc.) is unpractical too. You only have a small passage shown in the browser, not the whole text and it’s too complicate to navigate through the text. It would be nicer to have the whole text in one page, sou you could use page up/page down to see the text. In my humble opinion, the author should take a look at some good programs as TLG Workplace and Antiquarium.
annis, since you know perl and have already collaborate with the author, could you please give him these suggestions and maybe help him to implement them?
What do you (annis) think? And you, the guys who are using Diogenes? What do you think? Do you have any other suggestion?
Thanks.
After you guys talking about changing this, and doing that to the program, I am a little embarrassed that I’m not even able to download it. I’m sure that one of you kind souls is willing to help me along.
I can’t get past the point where it says
You have selected to download the 3.1.6 release.
Below is a list of files contained in this release.
Before downloading, you may want to read the release notes.
It tells me what I have selected, but I knew that already. How do I get the downloading to start?
Click on the file named “diogenes-windows-3.1.6.exe” – that should take you to one of those pages that says “your download should begin shortly” and it should start saving the file. If it doesn’t, then there is a link on that same page where you can right-click and do a “save-as.”
tico – My comments about the program were only about the dictionary and morphological search, which I think are fantastic. I don’t have the TLG so I can’t use those functions of the program.
Ok…either I am incredibly dense (a real possibility) or I am just missing something. When I try and morphologically analyze a word it just doesn’t seem to work.
I have tried parsing λυομεν, βαλλομεν, and οιδαμεν with no results. So…what am I doing wrong. And yes…I just downloaded the newest release this afternoon.
You have to type in the accents and spiritus as well, so you have to type λ?ομεν instead of λυομεν and so on (Or at least, in that way it starts parsing for me …)
And I would just say it’s a fantastic tool, amazingly fast, especially compared to Perseus
Yah, I started downloading all of the files in that list until I realized that you only need the one relevant to your operating system. I have been using it and am very impressed. I downloaded copies of the Iliad and Odyssey from ‘the little sailing’ which were linked to from here. I can open Diogenes, set it to morphological analysis and then just highlight the word and move it from the text window to the Diogenes window, drop it with accents breathings etc. and get a readout so much faster than the old perseus way. That Greek text reader that paul made was really cool except for the perseus delays. This is much more satisfactory in some ways. Maybe we could get the best of both worlds and have it look the word up in diogenes. Is that possible?
There’s no way I’m dropping the cash to buy the TLG, so there’s no way for me to test any of the alterations you ask for, nor even to see if I agree that the changes need to be made. Sorry.
Not yet. I contacted Perseus, and though the dictionaries are included in Diogenes, they aren’t technically released under an open license. They will be, just not yet. When they are I will install the Diogenes server on Textkit (with a pared down menu of actions), and try to shame some academic departments into doing the same thing.
The publication by Perseus of its data under Creative Commons licensing is an enormous public benefit, and you should thank them for it.
But I guess that was a bit premature. In any case, I’m happy because I can use it. Do the Perseus people say that even running a public Diogenes server is not allowed right now, or are they just worried about derivative programs appearing?
I made clear in my email to them that I intended to run a public Diogenes server so nothing was said about the second part of your question. They are evidently not satisfied (their words) with the current state of the dictionary files. I’m not sure what that means. They are working now on getting other things ready for release.
I’m just happy to know they’ll be freely available sooner rather than later.
Hmm…it sounds like I might be able to modify AGTM to resolve lexical lookups from a “local resolver” (the Diogenes dictionary). Is this what you had in mind?
Thanks for the tip, annis.
Edonnelly, I cannot figure out how to make the Diogenes server get running on my Windows PC. And I somehow managed to remove the conventional search box that has Google, etc. as the options and instead, I use Google toolbar on firefox. So I just got satisfied with using Diogenes as a dictionary. And it’s what I always wanted since I used WORDS, Latin Dictionary.
On the TLG site they tell you about subscribing. But there’s no info how to buy their CD that contains the corpus data. Although the online version would have the more extended data, the CD would fairly do much for individual amateur philologists; especially when Perseus is under maintenance.
Like Perseus, did they stopped selling their CD, and servicing only on line?
I got longer email from Perseus after I last posted here about the copyright question. They don’t want people changing the dictionary or morphology database before it is released under a proper license. As for making them available publicly via Diogenes on open web pages: “go for it.”
(Or at least, in that way it starts parsing for me …)
