I am starting to study Koine Greek on my own. And when I found this web site my heart jumped for joy. And then it all most stoped when I seen how little activity Koine Greek And Mounce’s Basics of Biblical Greek had. I wonder why there is so little activity here? I know that I would post here as I move along in my studies. I know the biggest challenge for me is time.
Oh, well may be after Christmas the posting here will pick up.
Oh yes do ask! I mean I have even bookmarked the Greek Orthodox Church’s site with all the Bible texts on line and I haven’t used it like for ever
You ask, we de-lurk and answer
For one thing…the forums have been pretty quiet on whole lately.
Post your questions here though, we’d love to interact with them. You’ll most definitely get replies. Unless of course you ask about Jn 1:1, no one is ever interested in discussing that
I know what you mean but I wouldn’t ban an honest discussion but banning the pretense of discussing it while in actual fact all that is done is cut and paste large sections from websites that “agree with you”, would be a good idea. All that does is beating someone on the head with someone else’s club.
Don’t be discouraged if the postings are infrequent. Some use other books to study New Testament Koine Greek instead of Mounce’s book which would explain the lack of postings. Two others and I are going through Machen’s New Testament Greek for Beginners at the moment. We are in Lesson 19 covering aorist participles. You can find us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Machen/. You are not alone.
That suggests a question for me to post: could you please post a link to that website? (I’m especially curious to learn about the Church’s cantillation of biblical readings, and what connection it has to the ancient pitch accents, given some remarks made in other threads…I suppose it might even be good to pop into my local Greek church on a Sunday morning, assuming I can think of something better to say than “I just wanted to see how well you spoke and sang Greek”!)
Keep in mind that quite a few texts in there are in modern Greek as far as I remember. Mind you, if you want to hear some chanting I can give you other ecclesiastical links (I think the Greek Orthodox Church of the USA has some midis). It’d be better than poopping into your local Greek church since some priests and cantors(?) just make my ears automatically shut down and my miniscule musice node roar in frustration and I remember hearing the priest on my brother’s wedding and wincing in perfect unison with my mother and a few others over the mistakes he made in Koine Greek.
Irene, sometimes you apologize for mistakes you say you make in your English. Your mistakes are precious few but this time your mistake is precious. Maybe it is just a matter of your finger stuttering, I don’t know. My guess is if you went into your local church and pooped (unless it was in a designated place) the priests and cantors are likely going to have a sh*t-fit.
P.s: This is the first time in all my posts that I had one of my words censored.
The reason this forum does not get as much traffic as some others is because many relevant to this forum end up being posted in the general “Learning Greek” forum: I am currently studying Homer and the Gospels, but any questions I have on those subjects I tend to post on the general forum simply because I believe it will get more views that way.
LOL! I’m most definitely glad I checked the site before going off line! Yes, it was a typo. Double “p” instead of double “o” but I am just not going to edit my post, it’s just too good!
Sorry everyone, I obviously don’t wanted to give priests and cantors any kind of fit. And thanks for the compliment Bert and for the heads up. I could have just missed that.
Note to self: Do read your posts again before blissfully going on!
Greetings
I thank you for the funny : ) Great!!! I just joined two nights ago, and am new at this thing, or this type of forum…
My English is normally full of bad habits, not the four letter type, just ellipses and exclamation points all over the place. The bad habits might drop a little as I see everyone’s good, inspiring me to better prose and so on. Your mentioning popping into a local church to hear the Greek has often been a goal of mine, but their hours are totally wrong for my other commitments : ) So, I think your on line links might be of need here. If I could find more and book mark them I think that will help me tremendously. I personally have not chose a book to study from yet, I have always checked things out of the library, and downloaded a few things here and there. I just downloaded all the books I could find on this site. (My thanks to the powers that be) And am looking them over. My main problem is lack of discipline, and while I have been interested in the subject for years, I still consider myself as a kindergartner. : ) So, if you or someone else reading this post knows of others just starting out, and they carry a big club with them, then send me in that direction, and maybe I’ll graduate to first grade : )
Think this is my third post, so if my tagging this thread was not the best way to get started, then let me know, as I can be slow at times : ) The reason I did jump in was the idea of getting local tutoring, but now I think that might not be the best way anyways : ) Thanks for the insight : ) Cheers Bill
Hey there! I just noticed I followed “pooped” with an “I don’t wanted” Honestly, sometimes I’m amazed by the things I come up with!
Now for the links: Greeks use modern Greek pronunciation for ancient Greek. That goes for the Byzantine hymns and psalms too obviously .Granted, the pronunciation during Biblical times was closer to modern Greek than classical but that doesn’t mean that all students (and teachers/professors) prefer the “appropriate” reconstructed pronunciation to begin with and very few outside Greece (and Cyprus obviously) go for modern Greek.
That said, you can start by checking youtube. Here’s a link for Psalm 144. You can see many others under “related links”. If you are interested in these I can find some more (I’ve moved to the US since I posted the previous messages and silly me didn’t think of making an attachment out of my bookmarks or something so I don’t have them anymore If not all’s good
Thank you for the link… If I had a little less peanut butter in my ears I might understand a bit more then I did : )
That is very interesting, and I believe I am going to book mark it to go back to it a couple of times : )
I might understand a bit more the next time around.
Yes, if you find the links for more of this great, but please do not go too far out of your way, as I learn more I
would hope to be able to recognise the differences between Modern and classic Greek. I checked a modern tape system out of the library and brought it back very shortly thereafter, remembering the alphabet was even different, and figured this is/was not my goal, so went to find some Koine Greek to start my studies : )
One quick question tho: Is the grammar pretty much the same in the three, Modern, Koine and Classic???
I just thought of a second question and that is: Is this thread going to go somewhere : ) I went to another site, but that group is about done with thier goals, reflector on the textkit site seems to be going strong, but if you know of a group that is just starting out I would love a push in the right direction : ) If you guys are about ready to pack it up, I don’t want to start something, or ask too many questions : ) Thanks again Bill
Hi, how is your studies going, using Basics of Biblical Greek? I am also considering using this material to brush up my Greek and teach my daughter. How do you find the books? Which of the Mounce resources are you using?