Hi, all! It’s difficult to introduce myself. Well, i’m a philologist, my native language is greek, and i’m a teacher of humanities (ancient greek language, modern greek language, latin, history, philosophy etc.) specialised in ancient greek and latin language. I’ve chosen this science, cause i loved the ancient greek spirit, the laws and philosophy, the warriors that fought for the state, the art, and the principles of giving, living free with respect to others and to the law, fighting or dying for justice, for others etc. I’m very lucky cause my hobby is my work and my studies. After 20 years of teaching i decided to write a lexicon of greek of all forms, from Homer to Constantin Palaeologus (the last emperor of the empire of Constantinople), cause all these are the basis of modern greek. I wish that more pleople on this planet would learn greek and latin…
Welcome to Textkit!
Thank you, i’m happy to be here!
Καλωσόρισες, φίλε!
Hello filos
Welcome to the Textkit community. Your credentials are impressive! You say you are writing a lexicon, which is wonderful. What many members of this board are also seeking is something along the lines of 500 Greek Verbs Fully Conjugated (though we would settle for a smaller number!), similar to what exists for Latin and many modern languages - there has been much discussion of this but nothing seems to have come to fruition, perhaps because Greek is made up of several dialects: Attic, Homeric, Koine, etc. , making the task complicated.
If this is a project that would interest you, I am sure the thanks from some us struggling to come to grips with the language would be overwhelming.
Just a thought
Michael
Ευχαριστώ, φίλε! Πάντα να πετάς ψηλά!
Thank you for your kindness, i’m happy to be here!
Let me understand you: you want the most common verbs fully conjugated? This can be done easily with microsoft excell or other similar program. I don’t need this, but i can make it. You want the syntax of the verbs too? I have it, but the definitions are in greek…
Or, maybe, you want the root of a verb and the forms that are made from this? For instαnce, from the root √γνο- the derivative verbs «γιγνώσκω», «ἀγνοέω», «ἀγνώσσω» etc., and some others like «ἀγνωμονέω», «ἀγνωμονεύομαι» and so on. This also is easy, if someone manages to write all the words from Thesaurus Linguae Graecae H. Stephanus (Valpy edition, not Didot), they are all there.
Maybe you want the notice: which from is aeolic, epic, doric or ionic? In this case, i think that a good book about the dialects would be perfect, cause this is etymology (a dictionary in a dictionary, very big issue). If you can understand oral modern greek, for the dialects and forms i suggest a youtube search “ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ ΧΑΤΖΗΓΙΑΝΝΑΚΗΣ”. He explains many issues and he gives so many examples and forms! His lectures are “trips to knowledge”.
I have to write this too: A verb can be conjugated, but there aren’t all the forms in the ancient scripts. For instance, there is no future tense of «ἀγαλλιάω», there is only «ἀγαλλιάσομαι» from «ἀγαλλιάομαι». The same problem arises again and again for the tenses, the persons, the numbers, the mood… I’m trying to say that we must first search all the types, if they exist, in the TLG database with another program, f.i. “Diogenes” (and in several other lexicons). Or you don’t need this, you want just a hypothetical conjugation?
Let me know what you want and i’ll do my best, if i can.
Hi filos
Thanks for your response, and I am sorry if my comment has opened a veritable Pandora’s box of issues.
I have on my bookshelf a small paperback I bought eons ago secondhand, already then much thumbed, titled
201 Latin Verbs fully conjugated in all the tenses. This is the model I was referring to for the equivalent in Greek.
Greek, with its many dialects, is a totally different animal. Basically, a learner would welcome a slim volume of the most common verbs with full conjugations in all the known tenses. Compounds are not really needed as they can be worked out from the base form. Perhaps determine what dialect - say, Attic - would have the widest appeal and focus on that.
On the recommendation of posters on this forum, I once bought Il verbo greco by Marinella de Luca, which offers promise but only the first person singular forms are given. Then there is All the Greek Verbs by M. Marinone, again promising, which personally I found next to useless, though this could be more a reflection on me as a learner rather than the book.
I hope this helps to clarify the situation. May be other Textkitters could give their slant on the matter.
Michael
If you need only the conjugation, i’ll make it for you. Is PDF format good enough for you? If yes, please, give me some time…
Not to derail any useful projects, but you are looking for something like this?
I wonder, jeidsath, why this did not surface in the recent thread discussion (not mine):<Need for a 500 ancient Greek verbs book> (Feb 2022)?
looks like a useful item.
Thanks for posting it.
Michael
Wow! What an impressive site.