# My journey through the exercises of Athenaze **URL:** \ **Category:** Greek Textbooks and Study Groups\ **Created:** [April 4, 2020, 9:38am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430 "2020-04-04T09:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/141 "2020-08-11T11:18:03Z")
Sentence 3: I guess I needed to ask the question a little more clearly: … λίθους γὰρ μεγάλους φερουσιν. Which is a more appropriate translation- “for they carry the large stones” or “for they carry large stones”? Sentence 5: ἀργός is correct. It declines just like καλός. You’re right: ἀργός has to agree with παῖδες. What case and number is παῖδες? ---
**Author:** ![malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/u/malolosgreencat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/142 "2020-08-11T13:06:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Sentence 3: I guess I needed to ask the question a little more clearly: > … λίθους γὰρ μεγάλους φερουσιν. > Which is a more appropriate translation- “for they carry the large stones” or “for they carry large stones”? > > Sentence 5: ἀργός is correct. It declines just like καλός. You’re right: ἀργός has to agree with παῖδες. What case and number is παῖδες? Sentence 3…for they carry large stones. Sentence 5…plural, nominative or vocative…vocative in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/143 "2020-08-11T13:31:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Sentence 5…plural, nominative or vocative…vocative in this case. So if ἀργός declines like καλός, what is the vocative plural of ἀργός? So now it’s on to “ΟΙ ΒΟΕΣ” ! ---
**Author:** ![jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/jeidsath/32/3_2.png) [@jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/u/jeidsath)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/144 "2020-08-11T17:05:15Z")
It’s still nominative (though it doesn’t matter in the plural). The subject of the sentence still gets the nominative. “Νέος γὰρ εἶ, ὦ φίλε παῖ.” νέος is nominative, φίλε is part of the address itself, and vocative, though they both refer to the same person. ---
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/145 "2020-08-11T17:33:44Z")
Joel’s right-the subject that the adjective ἀργός has to agree with is an implied “you” plural (subject of the verb ἔστε), so the case of the adjective will be nominative plural. As Joel indicates, in the plural the nominative and vocative forms have the same ending. ---
**Author:** ![malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/u/malolosgreencat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/146 "2020-08-12T05:15:26Z")
> [@](#): > > So if ἀργός declines like καλός, what is the vocative plural of ἀργός? > > So now it’s on to “ΟΙ ΒΟΕΣ” ! ἀργοί? ---
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:54am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/147 "2020-08-12T10:54:45Z")
Correct! ---
**Author:** ![malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/u/malolosgreencat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/148 "2020-08-12T11:21:13Z")
Ok. So tommorow, me and Mama are going to stay at the hospital. And the operation’s on Friday. So…uhm…if I wasn’t able to come online for ten days straight…well, contact my brother and ask how I am…just in case the worst happens… [https://www.facebook.com/raymond.lim.96930?epa=SEARCH\_BOX](https://www.facebook.com/raymond.lim.96930?epa=SEARCH_BOX) Say you’re website friends helping me learn a foreign language. ---
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/149 "2020-08-12T13:33:58Z")
Good luck tomorrow, my friend. I don’t have a Facebook account, but hopefully Joel does and he can share the news with us. In the meantime, I’ll pray for your recovery. Perhaps you can take _Athenaze_ along. I always go to a doctor’s appointment or hospital visit with lots of reading material! ---
**Author:** ![bedwere](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/bedwere/32/35_2.png) [@bedwere](https://www.textkit.com/u/bedwere)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/150 "2020-08-12T14:24:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Ok. So tommorow, me and Mama are going to stay at the hospital. And the operation’s on Friday. > > So…uhm…if I wasn’t able to come online for ten days straight…well, contact my brother and ask how I am…just in case the worst happens… > > [https://www.facebook.com/raymond.lim.96930?epa=SEARCH\_BOX](https://www.facebook.com/raymond.lim.96930?epa=SEARCH_BOX) > > Say you’re website friends helping me learn a foreign language. Ταχέως ἐκ τῆς νόσου ἀνένεγκον. ---
**Author:** ![malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/u/malolosgreencat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/151 "2020-08-13T12:29:20Z")
Operation is 7 A.M. Philippines time. . ---
**Author:** ![jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/jeidsath/32/3_2.png) [@jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/u/jeidsath)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/152 "2020-08-13T13:23:16Z")
Here’s hoping for a good result on the surgery and a quick recovery ---
**Author:** ![seneca2008](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/seneca2008/32/122_2.png) [@seneca2008](https://www.textkit.com/u/seneca2008)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/153 "2020-08-13T14:53:30Z")
I hope you make a swift recovery too. (I had only just noticed this thread had become active again) ---
**Author:** ![mwh](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6f9a4e/32.png) [@mwh](https://www.textkit.com/u/mwh)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/154 "2020-08-13T19:24:07Z")
Amen. (I wasn’t aware of your situation till now.) ---
**Author:** ![Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/lukas/32/159_2.png) [@Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/u/Lukas)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/155 "2020-08-14T02:44:51Z")
Hope you have a good procedure and recover quickly. ---
**Author:** ![malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@malolosgreencat](https://www.textkit.com/u/malolosgreencat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 9:49am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/156 "2020-08-14T09:49:35Z")
Alive. Operation finished. Estimate 1/3 of tongue removed? Had panic attack when I woke up. Would have ripped out needles and whatever is on my neck in a panic because I thought I couldn’t breathe if not for restraints I asked for. As in my arms and legs were tied up. ---
**Author:** ![Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Aetos](https://www.textkit.com/u/Aetos)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/157 "2020-08-14T10:47:55Z")
Malo, I’m happy to hear that the operation went well! The restraints were probably a wise precaution. People can have different reactions coming out of anaesthesia and the last thing you want is to do is pull out your IV. Thanks for letting us know! We’ll all rest a little easier this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![seneca2008](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/seneca2008/32/122_2.png) [@seneca2008](https://www.textkit.com/u/seneca2008)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 11:00am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/158 "2020-08-14T11:00:51Z")
Malo What a truly frightening experience you have been through. I am relieved to hear from you that the operation is over. It’s easy for me to say you have to keep calm but do try. I hope you will be back on your feet soon. ---
**Author:** ![Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/lukas/32/159_2.png) [@Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/u/Lukas)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/159 "2020-08-14T14:10:16Z")
Some odd years ago after a surgery, My Dad told me that he thought he could not breathe for a while. That anaesthesia is something. Glad you are finished. It is now history. ---
**Author:** ![jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/user_avatar/www.textkit.com/jeidsath/32/3_2.png) [@jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/u/jeidsath)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430/160 "2020-08-14T15:10:41Z")
1/3rd sounds pretty tough, but also like a good result. Good to hear that you’re all right. [Previous page](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430.md?page=7) [Next page](https://www.textkit.com/t/my-journey-through-the-exercises-of-athenaze/17430.md?page=9)