Lysias 1.1

It seems like this is a question that would have been asked before. I did a search to see if it has been asked but could not find it.

περὶ πολλοῦ ἂν ποιησαίμην, ὦ ἄνδρες, τὸ τοιούτους ὑμᾶς ἐμοὶ δικαστὰς περὶ τούτου τοῦ πράγματος γενέσθαι, οἷοίπερ ἂν ὑμῖν αὐτοῖς εἴητε τοιαῦτα πεπονθότες:

I don’t understand fully what is going on in the part of the sentence after the comma. to be more precise I dont understand what “ὑμῖν αὐτοῖς” is doing. Why is it in the dative case?

Hypothesis: Per the Middle Liddell, the “οἷοίπερ” is a comparison. So the sense would be “those like (οἷοίπερ) you yourselves (ὑμῖν αὐτοῖς) who may have suffered these things”.

οἷος ὅς
II. [select] containing a Comparison, often without an antec., οἷος ἀστὴρ εἶσι like as a star wanders, Il.; οἷος καὶ Πάρις ᾔσχυνε like as Paris also dishonoured, Aesch.:—in this sense, οἷος is often attached to the case of its antec., πρὸς ἄνδρας τολμηρούς, οἵους Ἀθηναίους (for οἷοιἈθηναῖοι), Thuc.

You’re close but not quite there yet. You haven’t worked in αν . . . ειητε. ύμνο αυτοις is parallel to εμοι earlier in the sentence. “ . . . the same sort of jurors to me as you would be to yourselves if you had undergone. . .”

Ahhh makes sense.