Would it be possible to have separate threads for each exercise?
(By threads I mean a new topic for each exercise.)
Daivid - I thought the same. A separate thread for each exercise would be good. It’s going to get really messy as we go on. Maybe discussion of Exercise I & II could remain here. Could we ask Jeisdath to start a new thread for Exercise III and each beyond that? ω Ιεισδαθ, καὶ συ θέλεις τοῦτο καὶ δύνασαι ποιεῖν;
Is there a difference in meaning between ἡ σκιά τῶν δενδῶν and the following two phrases?
δοκεῖ μοι that τὸ δοκεῖ in the following should be at the head of the phrase… ἀλλά δοκεῖ…
Daivid also took the ‘bone breaking’ sentence the way Jeisdath and I did.
So, what’s up with Sidgwick?
I’ll leave this thread for exercises I-II, and make a new thread for every three exercises after that (depending on how much forum noise that creates). So I will create a new thread for posts III-V.
I would suggest that each of us organize our posts with the following bolded headings to make things readable:
Exercise X – Comment @YYY
Exercise X – Submission
etc.
I don’t understand Sidgwick’s “ἴσως τούτου τοῦ κύκνου ὀστοῦν λίθῳ διερράγη.”
διερράγη must by self-affected (medio-passive). So, wouldn’t “bone” be in the Nominative? “The bone was broken…”
ὀστοῦν is nominative, contracted form of οστεον. (And διερράγη is simply passive.)
Jeisdath wrote, ἰδοὺ ἔξω τοῦ κινδύνου εἰσὶ καὶ. I don’t understand the rules about a moveable Nun, but it feels like it should have one. I found “εισιν και” 61x in the NT.
Movable nu is properly used (1) to avoid hiatus and (2) at sentence end. But manuscripts are far from consistent, when they distinguish at all (ἐστί(ν) is often written as a compendium). Editors impose uniformity.
Sidgwick, “αὕτη δὲ χαλεπή ἐστὶ, καὶ πολλοῖς ἔσται αἰτία τοῦ θανάτου.” […]
Mark’s translation of the last half of the sentence sounds better to me than Sidgwick’s:
τοῖς δὲ πολλοῖς αἰτία ἔσται θανάτου.
No, Mark’s is wrong. οἱ πολλοί, with article, means “most people” (“the many”). That’s why I queried τοις πολλοις in jeidsath’s version. “Many” is πολλοί without article. It’s an important distinction. Sidgwick is better for the rest of the sentence too, since it doesn’t split αιτια and θανατου, which cohere very closely, and θανατου has its regular article.
As a general principle, if we go thinking textkit members’ versions are better than Sidgwick’s, a rethink is probably in order. 
Of course, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t ask questions about Sidgwick’s versions.
Exercise I – Comment @Σαῦλος
There are quite a number of acute accents which should be grave. I won’t list them.
ὁρῶ πολλούς κύκνοι
Should be
ὁρῶ πολλοὺς κύκνους
οἵ λαμπροί καὶ λευκοί εἴσιν
Your original accent for οἵ is correct as written, and your self-correction is wrong. εἴσιν should be εἰσιν, not εἰσίν as you self-correct to. An enclitic following an oxytone loses its accent. Chandler 964.
EDIT: I’m wrong about οἵ! Now that I can see it with a larger font, you were correctly making it grave. (I thought that was the breathing mark).
κακόν νόσον
Markos corrected this in mine. νόσος is feminine, so κακὴν νόσον.
τοῦ τούτου τοῦ κύκνου
I don’t think that the first τοῦ is needed?
Exercise I – Comment @david
ὀρῶ πολλοὺς κύκνους οἳ ὃς εισι λαμπροὶ καὶ λευκοὶ
I think that you meant to delete the ὅς when you added οἵ for your correction.
ἐπὶ τῇ λίμνῃ
I think that you would call a city by the sea πόλις ἐπὶ τῇ θαλάττῃ. But a boat on a lake would be πλοῖν ἐπὶ τῆς λίμνης.
Exercise II – Comment @Σαῦλος
ναῦται εἰσίν
Accent for an enclitic would be ναῦταί εἰσιν. But see my discussion about about the accentation of non-copula uses of ἐστί.
ἐρυθρά ἐστίν
Accent. See my comment for Excercise I.
τὸ ἱστίον
Should be “a” sail?
ἄλλος καθεύδει ὁ δὲ τρίτος παρὰ τῷ πηδαλίῳ ἐστίν
This is close to how I wrote mine, but I’ve been thinking that it should start out with ὁ μὲν ἄλλος.
οὕτος δεινὸν κίνδυνον
Should be τοῦτον
ἐγγύς ἐστίν
Accent following an oxytone.
οὗτοι εἰσίν
Accent following a properispomenon.
I have noticed a tendency with 19th century to cover every possible declension even at the elementary level. Hence if we encounter a really odd form in Sidwick it is likely to be one of those rare declensions that modern textbooks tend skip.
It’s not really a different declension, just the standard εο > ου contraction that we see in e.g. ποιοῦμεν. (Vowel contractions are listed at Smyth 59.) But it’s not surprising that it threw eveyone, since here it’s not in a contract verb, which we’re used to, but in a noun. This is common in Attic, but you weren’t to know that; the uncontracted form, οστέον (2nd decl. neuter), is equally good. So not something brand new you have to learn! People saw that it should be nominative, and so in fact it is—the regular 2nd-decl form with the -ον obscured by the contraction.
Exercise 2 – Submission
Here is my stab at Exercise 2.
τρεῖς ναῦται εἰσὶ ἐν ἐλεινῷ τῷ πλοίῳ.
ἱμάτια τοῖς ναύταις ἐστὶ ἐρυθρά
ὁ νεός ναύτης ἔχει ἱστίον ἐπὶ τὸν ὦμον.
ἄλλος καθεύδει ἀλλὰ ὁ τρίτος ἐστὶ παρὰ τῳ πηδαλίῳ.
αὑτός οὐ ὁρᾷ τὸν δεινὸν κίνδυνον, ἐστὶ γὰρ πετρᾶν ἐν τῇ λίμνῃ.
αὕτη δὲ ἡ πετρὰ ἐστὶ στερρὰ ἔσται αἰτία θανάτου πόλοις.
νῦν εἰσὶ ἐγγὺς τόπου καὶ ὠχρός εἰμι ὑπὸ φοβοῦ.
ἀποτρέπω τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς.
ἰδοὺ ἔξω τοῦ κινδύνου εἴσι καὶ ἐκ χαράς δάκρυα εισι ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς.
Edit - after comparing I have spotted 3 mistakes myself:
αὑτός οὐ ὁρᾷ τὸν δεινὸν κίνδυνον, ἐστὶ γὰρ πετρᾶν ἐν τῇ λίμνῃ.
αὕτη δὲ ἡ πετρὰ ἐστὶ στερρὰ καὶ ἔσται αἰτία θανάτου πόλοις.
ἰδοὺ ἔξω τοῦ κινδύνου εἴσι καὶ ἐκ χαράς δάκρυα ἐστὶν ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς.
Exercise II – Comment @david
Accentuation: ναῦταί εἰσι
ἐλεινῷ: pitiable?
νεός → νεὸς
τὸν ὦμον → τοῦ ὤμου
αὑτός → οὖτος
πετρᾶν → πέτρα
ἡ πετρὰ ἐστὶ → ἡ πέτρα ἐστὶ
νῦν εἰσὶ → νῦν εἰσι
κινδύνου εἴσι → κινδύνου εἰσὶ
ὑπὸ χαρᾶς
δάκρυα ἔστιν or δάκρυά ἐστιν (see discussion above). To match the key, it would be the later.
Thanks very much for the comments. Mostly its clear but I couldn’t find the discussion unless you mean the points made about oxytones.
Exercise II – try 2τρεῖς ναῦται εἰσιν ἐν ἐκείνῳ τῷ πλοίῳ.
ἱμάτια τοῖς ναύταις ἐστιν ἐρυθρά
ὁ νεὸς ναύτης ἔχει ἱστίον ἐπὶ τοῦ ὤμου.
ἄλλος καθεύδει ἀλλὰ ὁ τρίτος ἐστὶ παρὰ τῳ πηδαλίῳ.
οὕτος οὐ ὁρᾷ τὸν δεινὸν κίνδυνον, ἐστὶ γὰρ πέτρα ἐν τῇ λίμνῃ.
αὕτη δὲ ἡ πέτρα ἐστὶ στερρὰ ἔσται αἰτία θανάτου πόλοις.
νῦν εἰσιν ἐγγὺς τόπου καὶ ὠχρός εἰμι ὑπὸ φοβοῦ.
ἀποτρέπω τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς.
ἰδοὺ ἔξω τοῦ κινδύνου εἰσὶ καὶ ὑπὸ χαρᾶς δάκρυά ἐστιν ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς.