Digital dictionaries: Forcellini

I know for a fact Godmy has finished scanning and uploading Smith’s dictionary, but it is unclear to me when he’ll officially release it.

If you go to http://www.lexica.linguax.com/ , you’ll see the Donate button at the top, which will take you to PayPal.

Gratias! Ideo patienter praestolabor. :smiley:

Thanks so much

I’m going to publish several new dictionaries soon: among them critical English-Latin dictionaries, an English version of Forcellini, critical English-Attic dictionaries and much more.

Moreoever there might appear a fully digital hand-transcribed version of Forcellini.

I haven’t yet asked for any donations for this year, maybe I will once I publish the dictionaries, since I still want the website to pay for itself without me feeling like I should include ads and similar annoyances.

Is this “A Copious and Critical English-Latin Dictionary” by Smith and Hall, published in 1871? If so, readers might like to know that Project Gutenberg Distributed Proofreaders has a project to proofread an OCR version of the dictionary (which will be submitted to Project Gutenberg once finished for everyone to enjoy). If anyone would like to help out, go to http://www.pgdp.net/ and register, then check the beginner tutorials at http://www.pgdp.net/c/quiz/start.php?show_only=PQ. The dictionary project page is at http://www.pgdp.net/c/project.php?id=projectID5775aeccac0c7&expected_state=P1.proj_avail.

I am amazed to read this. Transcribing Forcellini would be an enormous task, and the service rendered to students of Latin would be incomparable. We could even have new paper-bound editions of Forcellini, and possibly (computer-generated) abridged editions. It would be the only real monolingual Latin dictionary available, and what a dictionary!

I’ll definitely contribute to this. Thanks for informing us about it.

Hi guys. For anybody looking for an online version of Smith & Hall’s dictionary, some Brazilian guy has made us the great favour to put it up in a similar format as Godmy’s dictionaries, so that you’re able to search for headwords. Behold:

http://edgard.bikelis.com/lat/dic.py

Enjoy!

Good find. Thanks for sharing!

I’m afraid the existence of the Linguax website is endangered at the moment. I can either shut the site down (since I don’t have finances to run this any longer with the number of both dictionaries/traffic and the high number of users every day I have) or I put ads (Google-Ads e.g.) into there and make them absolutely unblockable - something I would hate to do since I hate ads, or I start receiving donations :-/ I have received some rare ones from some of the users here, but I’m still afraid the website is a little bit more expensive. (more about that there)


Also since today I added 4 new dictionaries:

And more are to come in this month (hopefully, if the website continues running).

Hey Godmy,

I really like linguax, so I’ll chip in. Is there any way you could have a “completion bar” of some sort, so we know how much you need vs how much you’ve got?

How about a stand-alone version that can be used locally?

First, I’m sorry for the lesser frequency of me answering to you, people, I must confess I visited Textkit scarcely in the last years.

anphph: I actually had something like that about 4 years ago, but it didn’t work that well, I usually had to update it manually. But I suppose, since I developed the announcing system today, I should be able to tell everybody when we’re covered (and I hope it’s better just a matter of days than weeks). On one hand it’s true that I didn’t openly ask anybody for a donation for almost 4 years, on the other hand the donation button was there (albeit I made it much smaller than the original Paypal button was as to make it even less annoying to users, since I’m so anti-ad and anti-useless things on websites, myself being an AdBlock user) and I had to cover the last few years more or less from my pocket (although there was one donator who really helped me out a few times in the past and I spoke with him).

nesrad: I thought about that many times, but the thing is that I often correct things or make them better and I like less the solution of making repeated releases sometimes several gigabytes big. Also, I’m not sure how technically user friendly that would be. Aside from this nagging financial side of it, I still consider the web solution the most practical (most non-classical languages dictionaries I use are online too). But I can see your point! +the situation that has just transpired…

I fixed the donation buttons, the announcement should show again, but in case you already clicked it today, just click on the OK button again. Sorry for the annoyance.

Alright, just in one week, we’re covered thanks to you all! :slight_smile: The site can continue now as it is.

Who would still like to help me in further development (or who hasn’t donated yet and would like to) I still collect donations for reserves / for a kind of safety buffer (for the future) and every dollar will be appreciated and motivate me to work on more dictionaries! :wink:

Good aftenoon,
I am member of the Collegium Latinitatis, I am looking for Martin Holan, the man who scaned the Forcellini Dictionary. I would like to contac with him.It would be very kind if you can provide me his contac

Salvete omnes!
May I draw your attention to my work on the Riddle and Arnold English-Latin lexicon.
It is still a work in progress, but I have recently put up a basic online search tool here https://fergusjpwalsh.github.io/riddle-arnold

You can also download it to use offline here https://latin-dict.github.io/dictionaries/Riddle1864.html

My plans for the future include mark up and formatting. I am also in the early stages of transcription with OCR Charles Yonge’s English-Latin dictionary too.

I’d be keen to hear any advice on XML markup and the best way to encode and display a dictionary like this.

Thanks also to Godmy for publishing dictionaries online. They have been really useful in my studies!

Hello,

I just found out your digital version of Forcellini. I, also doing digital versions of printed works, know it’s huge.

You say you have problems with expensive bandwidth. From what I can see in the html code of the results, a significant part of the output is code, not content. I think you may be able to lighten the code to some extent and save bandwidth.

About the suggestion of providing offline version of your dictionaries, I think it’s a good idea: a user who has an offline version doesn’t consume anymore bandwidth. If the weight of the files is optimized, it may be interesting to consider. As for the exploitation of the data, the stardict format is perfect, because it has an index and work exactly like your site, and a minimum of adaptation would be necessary, because the data is already in html format. Other good reason to offer offline version is that if linguax ever goes offline, the dictionaries will be lost. With offline versions, user would be able to re-upload the dictionaries even long after the site is dead.

I told to many other Latin dictionary makers. They digitize wordbooks for public use, so one can look up for words online, but are not willing to share the full databases. I was not able to convince them for offline versions.

You can start your own transcription project on https://www.pgdp.net and distribute the result as Public Domain. Recently, two big projects have been finished, Wagner (2018-2023) and Smith & Hall (2016-2023). It takes years, but it is possible.

And the day the website is dead, the work is lost forever, exactly the opposite of what was intended.

I usually prefer working alone on smaller projects. I can do things as I feel, and don’t have to rely on unreliable people.