# Digammatic words **URL:** \ **Category:** Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry\ **Created:** [April 6, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193 "2006-04-06T01:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/1 "2006-04-06T01:45:07Z")
I have sometimes wanted a list more convenient than digging into Seymour, Benner or Monro, so I produced a list from all three: [Words with Digamma in Epic](http://www.aoidoi.org/articles/epic/digamma.html). ---
**Author:** ![cmw](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@cmw](https://www.textkit.com/u/cmw)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/2 "2006-04-06T02:58:14Z")
What’s the reason for εξ (six) to be placed in this category? Does it not follow the pattern like the rest of the s-\>h words? ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 12:22pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/3 "2006-04-06T12:22:56Z")
> [@Chris Weimer](#): > > What’s the reason for εξ (six) to be placed in this category? Does it not follow the pattern like the rest of the s-\>h words? I’ll have to dig into that, since I simply lifted it from Seymour’s list. It’s true that the list I present isn’t exactly “words that started with digamma” but “words which regularly cause hiatus or lengthen preceding short syllables.” Most of these were _w-_, but some were _sw-_. ---
**Author:** ![swiftnicholas](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@swiftnicholas](https://www.textkit.com/u/swiftnicholas)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/4 "2006-04-06T18:43:04Z")
That’s a great idea Will, thanks. I was surprised to see Ἴλιον on the list, I didn’t realize that. I noticed one thing in the first paragraph, “The starting point my list”, presumably “of” or “for my list”. And I noticed that Ἑκάτη wasn’t on the list, which would put you one up on Cunliffe. 🙂 And when I checked Cunliffe just now for Ἑκάτη, to avoid looking stupid, I also noticed some words which aren’t on the list, but some of these might just fall under ἑκάς… ἑκάε?γος ?κάτε?θεν ἑκατηβελέτης ἑκατηβόλος ἕκατος ἑκηβόλος ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/5 "2006-04-06T22:34:28Z")
> [@Chris Weimer](#): > > What’s the reason for εξ (six) to be placed in this category? Now that I’ve had time to check my books… Six shows a varied ancestry among the IE languages. Some go back to _\*seks_, some to _\*sweks_ (Sihler). Monro cites several cases of not only hiatus but syllable-closing before ἕξ which would suggest Greek was in the _\*sweks_ group. ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/6 "2006-04-06T22:42:02Z")
> [@swiftnicholas](#): > > I noticed one thing in the first paragraph, “The starting point my list”, presumably “of” or “for my list”. Drat. Thank you. > And I noticed that Ἑκάτη wasn’t on the list, which would put you one up on Cunliffe. \> 🙂 \> I checked the _index nominum_ to both the Iliad and the Odyssey. Homer not once mentions Hecate. > And when I checked Cunliffe just now for Ἑκάτη, to avoid looking stupid, I also noticed some words which aren’t on the list, but some of these might just fall under ἑκάς… Hmm. I should work in some comment about compounds. ---
**Author:** ![cmw](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@cmw](https://www.textkit.com/u/cmw)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/7 "2006-04-07T08:18:11Z")
Thanks William for the clarification. I had forgotten about the \*seks v. \*sweks variation. I did know that. Great job, by the way! ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/8 "2006-04-07T13:18:45Z")
> [@Chris Weimer](#): > > Thanks William for the clarification. I had forgotten about the \*seks v. \*sweks variation. I did know that. I didn’t know that, so I’m happy to have done the digging. ---
**Author:** ![swiftnicholas](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@swiftnicholas](https://www.textkit.com/u/swiftnicholas)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/9 "2006-04-10T18:50:15Z")
> [@annis](#): > > I checked the index nominum to both the Iliad and the Odyssey. Homer not once mentions Hecate. Well, I guess I didn’t try hard enough to avoid looking stupid. 🙂 But that’s very interesting. I’ve come across it a couple of times in the Hymn to Demeter, but searching Greek hexameter on Perseus, I see that it occurs again in epic only in one section of the Theogony. At least I learned something new… Thanks again for the list! ---
**Author:** ![Bert](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Bert](https://www.textkit.com/u/Bert)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/10 "2006-04-17T23:43:48Z")
I was reviewing my vocabulary in preparation for Iliad-β when I came across δό?υ δου?ός τό According to Cunliffe, the spelling was influenced by the Digamma. I am not sure if this is important for the purpose of your list but I mention it in case it is. ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 12:27pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/11 "2006-04-19T12:27:59Z")
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**Author:** ![cmw](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@cmw](https://www.textkit.com/u/cmw)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/12 "2006-04-19T13:08:29Z")
Does δο??ός affect the scansion at all? I wouldn’t think so… ---
**Author:** ![Bert](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Bert](https://www.textkit.com/u/Bert)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/13 "2006-04-19T23:25:06Z")
What is the fourth letter in δο??ός? (On my screen it looks like something midway between an Alpha and an Omicron.) ---
**Author:** ![cmw](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@cmw](https://www.textkit.com/u/cmw)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/14 "2006-04-19T23:27:34Z")
It’s the digamma. ---
**Author:** ![Bert](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Bert](https://www.textkit.com/u/Bert)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/15 "2006-04-19T23:36:03Z")
Thanks. So what does a lower case Digamma look like? It appears a lot like the “at” sign. (@) And what is the keystroke for it? ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/16 "2006-04-20T00:33:19Z")
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**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/17 "2006-04-20T00:34:09Z")
> [@Bert](#): > > Thanks. So what does a lower case Digamma look like? It appears a lot like the “at” sign. (@) Both large and small a digamma should look a lot like ‘F’. > And what is the keystroke for it? That will depend on your keyboard input method/program. ---
**Author:** ![Bert](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Bert](https://www.textkit.com/u/Bert)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/18 "2006-04-20T01:13:42Z")
> [@annis](#): > > > [@Bert](#): > > > > Thanks. So what does a lower case Digamma look like? It appears a lot like the “at” sign. (@) > > Both large and small a digamma should look a lot like ‘F’. Maybe my unicode font (from Keyman) does not include any of the obsolete letters so it gives me this @ looking thing. > [@annis](#): > > > And what is the keystroke for it? > > That will depend on your keyboard input method/program. What is it in SPIonic. My unicode font has very similar keying to Spionic ---
**Author:** ![annis](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@annis](https://www.textkit.com/u/annis)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 12:08pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/19 "2006-04-20T12:08:32Z")
> [@Bert](#): > > What is it in SPIonic. Uppercase ‘V’. ---
**Author:** ![Bert](https://www.textkit.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Bert](https://www.textkit.com/u/Bert)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/digammatic-words/5193/20 "2006-04-29T18:59:10Z")
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