Defective verbs

haha emma I love you!

It’s like a deformed very north german mixed with current english and some viking elements too.

Not my idea of a lovely language. Nevertheless, good song!

Well, I think it’s a lovely language.

Thank you, Emma.

Keesa

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Interesting…

Another irregular one is “have” which is “has” in the third person singular when its predicted form would be “haves”. I would not mind seeing a complete list of English irregulars :smiley:
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When I was still in the Netherlands, I had to memorize lists of English irregular verbs. No fun.

The linguistic phenomenon to which you have referred, “collision,” is also called suppletion. It is quite common, and its more salient archetype in Latin is the verb ‘fero’. Fero has the stem fer- in the main sequence tenses, but in the perfect tenses it becomes tul- which used to be a verb of its own. The perfect passive participle of Fero, interestingly, is formed from yet another verb, this ppp is Latum.

Benissimus:
I would not mind seeing a complete list of English irregulars


Enjoy!

http://www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/verbs.htm<br />
Magistra

That’s a neat page! Thank you, Magistra.

Keesa

Hmm, interesting page Magistra. I disagree with some of their past participles. I prefer saying “I have beaten” to “I have beat” or “I have shaven” to “I have shaved” even if that is less conventional.

Fero, ferre, tuli, latum;” tolero, tolerare, toleravi, toleratum, and tollo, tollere, sustuli, sublatum are a result of some rather large verb collision. The verb do, dare, dedi, datum is also the result of a collision, which explains it’s unusual third part which is related to dedico and it’s abnormal short “A” in the present stem.

“Feeling that Peter was on his way back, the Neverland had again woke into life. We ought to use the pluperfect and say wakened, but woke is better and was always used by Peter.”

~From The Adventures of Peter Pan, by James Matthew Barrie.

Something like that? :wink:

Keesa

Hehe… some of those old authors were a bit eccentric…

It just occurred to me last night that the parts tuli and latum are related, because the old form of the fourth part was tlatum, but Latin was not very fond of hard consonant clusters (as is English), so they dropped the “T”. :sunglasses: