Analysis

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I’m working on parsing the sequences of subordination using Dickey’s method of analysis.

What are your thoughts:

Xen., Memorabilia 1.2.19
ἴσως οὖν εἴποιεν ἂν πολλοὶ τῶν φασκόντων φιλοσοφεῖν ὅτι οὐκ ἄν ποτε ὁ δίκαιος ἄδικος γένοιτο, οὐδὲ ὁ σώφρων ὑβριστής, οὐδὲ ἄλλο οὐδὲν ὧν μάθησίς ἐστιν ὁ μαθὼν ἀνεπιστήμων ἄν ποτε γένοιτο.

1 ἴσως οὖν εἴποιεν ἂν πολλοὶ ὅτι
“Equally then many…would say that” potential optative
__1.1 τῶν φασκόντων φιλοσοφεῖν
“…of those asserting love of wisdom…”

__1.2 οὐκ ἄν ποτε ὁ δίκαιος ἄδικος γένοιτο
“the just man could never become unjust” potential optative

__1.3 οὐδὲ ὁ σώφρων ὑβριστής (γένοιτο)
“nor (could) the prudent man (become) insolent” potential optative

__1.4 οὐδὲ ἄλλο οὐδὲν …ὁ μαθὼν ἀνεπιστήμων ἄν ποτε γένοιτο
“nor one who having learned…ever become ignorant with respect to it” potential optative
____1.4.1 ὧν μάθησίς ἐστιν
“…things of which there is a kind of knowledge…”


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2

everything looks ok isos here means perhaps not equally

3

great! cheers

4

How about this one.

Plato, Symposium 216e-217a
σπουδάσαντος δὲ αὐτοῦ καὶ ἀνοιχθέντος οὐκ οἶδα εἴ τις ἑώρακεν τὰ ἐντὸς ἀγάλματα: ἀλλ᾽ ἐγὼ ἤδη ποτ᾽ εἶδον, καί μοι ἔδοξεν οὕτω θεῖα καὶ χρυσᾶ εἶναι καὶ πάγκαλα καὶ θαυμαστά, ὥστε ποιητέον εἶναι ἔμβραχυ ὅτι κελεύοι Σωκράτης.

1 οὐκ οἶδα
“…I don’t know”

_1.1 εἴ τις ἑώρακεν τὰ ἐντὸς ἀγάλματα
“if anyone has seen the images inside”

_1.2 σπουδάσαντος δὲ αὐτοῦ καὶ ἀνοιχθέντος
“When he was in earnest and had opened up…”

2 ἀλλ᾽ ἐγὼ ἤδη ποτ᾽ εἶδον
“but once upon a time I saw (them)”

3 καί μοι ἔδοξεν
“and to me they seemed”

_3.1 οὕτω θεῖα καὶ χρυσᾶ εἶναι καὶ πάγκαλα καὶ θαυμαστά
“to be so golden and divine, so wonderful and perfectly noble”

__3.1.1 ὥστε ποιητέον εἶναι
“that I had to do”

____3.1.1.1 ἔμβραχυ ὅτι κελεύοι Σωκράτης
“in short, whatever Socrates asked” indefinite clause

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