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Perseus Offline Mirror

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Hi everyone, I was referred here by the Perseus webmaster, after contacting them asking how to set up an offline version of the Perseus Hopper. She said maybe someone here might be able to help.

I have downloaded the Perseus opensource materials, but the instructions seem rather outdated. Does anyone know how to do this, or, perhaps, some other method?

Thanks! :D

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Welcome.

I haven't looked at the Hopper project in a very long time. I suspect that the instructions are old because it's old. If you have specific issues, maybe you can post them.

Unless there's a particular reason to resurrect the old code, I'd personally take a look at their new Scaife project and get that running instead.
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I don't want to say anything bad about the new Scaife reader, but for me I like the Perseus Hopper because the part-of-speech codes are more readily available.

The main reason I probably can't get the thing working is because I haven't set up a server in a long time, and am not very good with databases.

I would very much like to get it working, though. I was hoping somebody had a solution, like maybe had successfully used a "website downloader" program, or knew how to set up the Hopper the normal way.

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Avocado wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:33 pm The main reason I probably can't get the thing working is because I haven't set up a server in a long time, and am not very good with databases.

I would very much like to get it working, though. I was hoping somebody had a solution, like maybe had successfully used a "website downloader" program, or knew how to set up the Hopper the normal way.
This may not be what you're looking for, but you might want to try Diogenes (https://d.iogen.es/d/index.html), which functions similarly to Scaife, but offers many more features. Its morphological data originally come from Perseus, but I believe have also been refined over the years.

Reading in Diogenes is a real pleasure. And parts of speech (and definitions) are displayed instantaneously when you click on a word.

You can opt to run the app as a standalone app or as a server. The instructions are pretty straightforward (https://d.iogen.es/d/install.html).

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Hey thanks, I really like this. Downloaded the databases and everything, pretty sweet.

Only things that would keep me from using it all the time are 1) not having the other dictionaries, i.e. Middle Liddell; 2) not being able to search for a word directly, i.e. having to search for the word and then click on it in the text, with no way to just quickly search the definition.

Still, really great to have!

Thanks! :D

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Avocado wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:15 am Only things that would keep me from using it all the time are 1) not having the other dictionaries, i.e. Middle Liddell; 2) not being able to search for a word directly, i.e. having to search for the word and then click on it in the text, with no way to just quickly search the definition.
You can actually search for a word directly from the home screen by clicking Lookup -> Lexicon or Lookup -> Inflexion. If you're on a Mac, you can also hit Control+Option+L or Control+Option+I respectively for faster access to these screens (these shortcuts may work on other operating systems, too, but I haven't tried them).

I nearly always have two instances of Diogenes open on my computer – one for reading and the other for doing separate searches unrelated to the text I'm reading (hit command+N to open a new instance).

If you want to consult Middle Liddell (or Cunliffe or any of the other dictionaries on Logeion), just click on the Logeion link in the top left-hand corner of the search results screen, which should take you directly to the word on the Logeion site. :-)

Additionally, there are links just above the lemma to the TLL and the OLD if you have these files on your system.

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Thanks, that's perfect! :D :D :D

EDIT: I tried looking for the links above the lemma to the TLL and the OLD, and I thought I had them on my system.

https://imgur.com/ULWmvVP

https://imgur.com/OWuP8s3

But I don't see the links. Not sure about OLD though, it was just some file I downloaded from archive.org.

https://imgur.com/HZxD6iw

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Avocado wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:08 am Thanks, that's perfect! :D :D :D

EDIT: I tried looking for the links above the lemma to the TLL and the OLD, and I thought I had them on my system.

https://imgur.com/ULWmvVP

https://imgur.com/OWuP8s3

But I don't see the links. Not sure about OLD though, it was just some file I downloaded from archive.org.

https://imgur.com/HZxD6iw
The TLL and OLD links will show up only if you're searching for a lemma in Latin. In your screenshot, I see you're searching in Greek. :-)

In the database setup screen, be sure to point Diogenes to the right directory for the TLL PDFs, otherwise you won't see the link either. It looks like yours is pointing to the TLG directory (which may be fine if you've downloaded the TLL PDFs there). When I downloaded these via Diogenes (File -> Download TLL PDFs) I put these in a separate directory to keep everything organised.

Also note that the TLL is not complete, so Diogenes won't show a link for words after 'regnum'.

HTH!

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My problems are solved.

Thanks!

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