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Proust recommendations

Post by Paul Derouda » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:20 pm

Hello,
This is not exactly Green or Latin, but well. Years ago, I tried to read Proust's À la recherche du temps perdu (in French), but never got too far. I thought I'd give it a new try, but I'm a bit overwhelmed by the different editions that are available. I used to have the Flammarion edition of the first volume, but I can't find it anywhere, so I need to get a new copy anyway (just the first volume, for starters).

Can anyone recommend a particular edition? I couldn't find much information just by googling. There seems to be some controversy about the newest Pleaide ("too" much material?), and I got the impression that older versions were bowdlerized to a point (homosexuality?), but I couldn't find a definite answer. I'd be thankful for any advice!

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by cb » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:45 pm

Hi Paul, I have the Gallimard (Collection Quarto) edition of the whole book in a single volume: this was the edition most commonly displayed in major Parisian bookstores when I was there a few years ago, and for a 2,400+ pg paperback it's holding up well, and is a good size for reading (but I do like quarto-sized books generally):

http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLI ... emps-perdu

It uses the Pléiade text under the direction of Jean-Yves Tadié.

It looks like there's a newer version which you might want to check out:

http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLI ... mps-perdu2

Cheers, Chad

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by mwh » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:41 am

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by Paul Derouda » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:25 am

Thanks.

Chad, does the Quarto version have any notes? I don’t want to spoil the joy of reading by spending most of the time looking up notes, but I like to have some clarification (and prefer footnotes to endnotes).

Michael, I was looking for the whole thing, not just a summary. :D

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by cb » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:56 am

Hi Paul, no the Quarto edition has no notes, no introduction: open the book and flick past a few pages and you're straight into the start of the book, without footnotes or endnotes.

Cheers, Chad

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by Paul Derouda » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:29 pm

Finally I found an article has some relevance to my question. Others might find it interesting as well, so I'll share it. The last parts of the work were published posthumously and before his death, Proust had made important changes to the second last volume. When he died, this created a problem because the last volume didn't quite fit with the second last, and the editor decided not to take account of Proust's final changes.

This still doesn't quite give the definite answer to the question "which edition should I read?", though...

https://www.persee.fr/doc/litt_0047-480 ... _88_4_1558

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by cb » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:04 pm

Many thanks Paul, very interesting article. Did the distinction between critical and genetic approaches to editing a text discussed in the article remind you a little of West's versus Nagy's approaches to editing Homer?

Also, a confession: I am not as sufficiently well-read as the author presumed, for the title of the article did not, as suggested in the opening sentence, call to my mind Pierrot's article from Les Cahiers de Textologie no. 2 in 1988.

Cheers, Chad

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by Paul Derouda » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:30 pm

Haha, let me assure you that I just skimmed through that article to find the bits that interested me... I didn't even notice the rest.

I think Hylander has mentioned Proust somewhere along the way on Textkit, perhaps in discussion related to editing Homer. There are indeed some similarities. But Proust's work is long enough as it is, I won't be needing any alternative versions any time soon, just a nice Text.

But I'm still haven't made up my mind about the version I'm going to read. I've decided to resist the luxurious (and expensive) appeal of Pléiade for something more concise, but I still have to choose between Folio, Flammarion, Bouquins/Laffont and Livre de poche, which all apparently offer a different commented edition (and perhaps I've missed some)!

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Re: Proust recommendations

Post by Bart » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:31 am

Paul, my two cents: don't resist the temptation of the Pléiade. Those 4 volumes are a κτῆμα εἰς ἀεί.

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