JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

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JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by brookter » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:46 am

Hi,

Forgive the simple question, but I'm slightly confused by the placing of accents in the answer given (in the Independent Study Guide) to the following question: He is and he is not.

ἔστι καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν.

(My attempt was ἐστί καὶ οὐκ ἐστί.).

Why has ἐστί become ἔστι?

I assume it's because ἐστί is enclitic, but according to Wikisource (I know, I know), this isn't the case:
Enclitics at the beginning of a sentence or clause retain their accent. Enclitics used emphatically also retain their accent.

ἐστί is written ἔστι at the beginning of a sentence, if it follows οὐκ (ouk), μή (mḗ), εἰ (ei), ὡς (hōs), ἀλλ’ (all’), τοῦτ’ (toût’), and in the phrase ἔστιν ὅτε (éstin hóte, “sometimes”).
... neither of which appear to apply here. The change isn't explained in JACT as far as I can tell. What have I misunderstood, please?

Thanks.

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Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by seneca2008 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:50 am

Probert "A new short guide to the Accentuation of Ancient Greek" p 144 says:

"The form ἐστί, normally enclitic, has a fully accented variant ἔστι. This fully accented variant is used at the beginning of a verse sentence or clause and when the word expresses existence or possibility...."

Hope this helps

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Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:47 pm

seneca2008 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:50 am
Probert "A new short guide to the Accentuation of Ancient Greek" p 144 says:
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Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by seneca2008 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:19 pm

I was taught Greek initially by someone who ignored the accents. This was a disaster which I never really recovered from in my formal studies. So I am using Probert to remedy this defect. I find it very clear and informative.

Probert gives some other interesting info quoting Herodian, Hermann's rule (which she follows) and criticism by Wackernagel/Barrett/West. I thought this was a bit too advanced for the OP and probably everyone else here already knows it.

I highly recommend it. It has exercises too.

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Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by brookter » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:40 pm

That's useful. Thanks very much for the quick reply!

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Re: JACT: Exercise 1H-J4. accents on ἐστί

Post by seanjonesbw » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:11 pm

seneca2008 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:50 am
"The form ἐστί, normally enclitic, has a fully accented variant ἔστι. This fully accented variant is used at the beginning of a verse sentence or clause and when the word expresses existence or possibility...."
The Seikilos inscription is a nice example of this, and the accentuation on ἔστι is supported by the melody!

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἔστι τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.
ἁλὶ γὰρ δέδμητο φίλον κῆρ 🌊

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