What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by metrodorus » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:38 pm

If you are interested in magical texts, you could do worse than read this one:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8NE7AAAAcAAJ
Malleus maleficarum
By Jakob Sprenger, Heinrich Institoris
There is a clearer edition available on europeana.eu
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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Junya » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:53 am

Thank you, Metrodorus.
Melleus Maleficarum, nice. (I own an English translation of it.)
If you have time, could you instruct me how to search the net effectively and without headache for what one wants to find (in my case, magical texts from around Renaissance) ?
I am really bad at searching the net.
Whie searching, I soon get a headache (not figuratively, but a real headache).

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by metrodorus » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:23 pm

I'll make a YouTube video and stick on Latinum giving some hints - although I am sure others are better at it than I am. Sometime this week, hopefully.
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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Junya » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:49 am

Metrodorus, I'm sorry for bothering you. But I thank you very much. I am looking forward to it

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Junya » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Metrodorus, I learned about Archive.org at your LATINUM. The Archive.org and the Google books would suffice.

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Sceptra Tenens » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:35 pm

I enjoy the letters of Pliny the Younger.

Also, you might find this helpful.
mihi iussa capessere fas est

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by quendidil » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:37 pm

Latin-English edition of the Heptameron. Arbatel.

The Clavicula Salomonis in Latin is quite a bit harder to find though. There was a critical edition of the Liber Juratus which is now out of print. There is also a critical edition of Libri Tres de Philosophia Occulta still available. Julien Veronese was also preparing a critical edition of the Almandal in Latin AFAIK which might have been published already. There's also a book called Forbidden Rites: A Necromancer's Manual of the Fifteenth Century with a transcription of a grimoire in Latin.

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Junya » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:59 am

Quendidil, you gave me a wonderful information.
But the problem is, I can't choose what kind of Latin text I should REALLY read, what I should REALLY study. (There are 3 or more options.)
The study of magical texts is fascinating.
And I have always wanted to see and study them from the first time.
I wish I could choose it as my true object of study right now, but I can't.

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by quendidil » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:09 am

Why don't you try reading some Classical authors too? Cicero goes into philosophy in many of his letters; there's Lucretius, Seneca and if you consider natural philosophy, there's Pliny.

Besides that, there are more modern philosophical writings in Latin from the Renaissance to the early modern era too. Newton, Descartes, Spinoza among others. From the 18th century on there are also some translations of Eastern philosophical texts into Latin. This guy in fact translated the Diamond Sutra and the Prajnaparamita Heart Sutra into Latin. Here is the Dhammapada in Pali and Latin.

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Re: What kind of Latin texts should I read ?

Post by Junya » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:19 pm

Quendidil,
why do you know I have an inclination to Buddhism ? Because I am Japanese ?
You gave me a lot of options.
But what has to be advised on is, what I had better choose from them.
I can't do multiple work. (The reason is written below.)
And to tell the truth, I want to go to the study of Buddhism, abandonning what I have studied these several years, Latin and Greek.
(Last year I tried translating the Heart Sutra myself from Sanskrit. The Heart Sutra is the best known sutra among Japanese (the Chinese translation of it). Even my mom often hand-copies it as a kind of religious activity.)



Why I want to go to Buddhism is, because the philosophies in Latin and Greek don't have a topic which I can find myself really interested in.
But in Buddhism there are, and in Buddhism there are what I find really important for my life and deserve serious studying.
I'm especially interested in the philosophical study of Buddhism on how to observe oneself and control oneself, so that one can control the pain of body (and mind, and life in general).
Science of self-observation, especially as regards observation of one's body from the inner side, is not cultivated in Latin and Greek philosophies.
Dammapada you mentioned, and Suttanipata have been especially interesting to me.



Now I'm in the middle of opposite options, unable to decide which one to choose.
Should I cherish my present ability in Latin and Greek and keep working at them ?
then which philosophers should I study?
(I started Latin from Aquinas as a commentator of Aristotle's DE ANIMA, and other Latin commentators on DE ANIMA, and then started Aristotle's Greek text of DE ANIMA or Peri Psyche^s.)
Or should I abandon them and go to Buddhism study ?


I cannot do them all. I have to abandon some.
For, Latin and Greek writings are difficult to me, so they demand very much laborious dictionary-consultation.
I cannot work on multiple texts.
And also I like to translate in a deep way,
creatively thinking how to translate better and in a well coherent manner, and how to make the translation understandable as deeply for the readers as for me,
disliking just translating literally, or just imitating the other translators' translations.
So the work takes much time and energy, that I cannot engage in multiple works.




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options
1. Miedeval commentaries on Aristotle's DE ANIMA and Greek original text and Greek commentaries (This is what I most have engaged myself in.)
2. Renaissance magical texts (This is what I am just curious, probably influenced by occult novels and films and Japanese animations and comics.)
3. Philosophical writings from Roman period. (This is to challenge a very difficult Latin, studying of which will deepen my knowledge of Latin.)
4. Buddhism
5. et cetera

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