Diogenes software!!!

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Diogenes software!!!

Post by Swth\r » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:44 am

Diogenes! O mates, did you know about that? :shock:

http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/
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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by Amadeus » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:53 pm

I did. I used it for a while and it was just excellent! Sadly, a few weeks back the software malfunctioned. Every time I wanted to do a dictionary search the program couldn't find the database or something... :cry:
Lisa: Relax?! I can't relax! Nor can I yield, relent, or... Only two synonyms? Oh my God! I'm losing my perspicacity! Aaaaa!

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Post by Swth\r » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:17 pm

Did you try to reinstall it?
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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by Amadeus » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:52 pm

I re-installed it a few moments ago, but the same error popped up: there's no database to be found in my machine. I did a Google search and this came up: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25142/diogenes One of the reviewers for the software says that the TLG database must be bought separately, which is odd because I could freely search the dictionaries before. Then I noticed that the first option in the Diogenes splash screen was set to "Simple search for a word or phrase", so I switched it to "Look up a word in the dictionary".... lo and behold, it works now! I guess I must've changed the default option without even noticing. :P Let this be a lesson to anyone else who's just as absent-minded as me. :lol:
Lisa: Relax?! I can't relax! Nor can I yield, relent, or... Only two synonyms? Oh my God! I'm losing my perspicacity! Aaaaa!

Homer: Well it's always in the last place you look.

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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by kkkristo » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:18 am

Please help me! When starting after installing a screen appeared demanding a location of TLG database. I browsed all folders at program files/diogenes/... and found nothing. How should I know where the database is?? What is the name of database-folder :?: (I have windows xp)

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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by kkkristo » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:33 am

Please help me! When starting after installing a screen appeared demanding a location of TLG database. I browsed all folders at c\program files/diogenes/... and found nothing. How should I know where the database is?? What is the name of database-folder :?: (I have windows xp)

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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by LSorenson » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:06 am

The TLG database files which Diogenes can access, are not part of the Diogenes program. You must subscribe to the TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae) http://www.tlg.uci.edu/ in order to get the texts from TLG. There are some freely available texts which TLG provides gratis. I do not think Diogenes can link to those freely available TLG texts. An individual subscription to TLG costs $100 US dollars per year.

Even though the Diogenes does not include the TLG files, one can still use Diogenes to lookup words in the Liddell-Scott-Jones lexicon and parse words. (The author of Diogenes, Peter Heslin, is personally hoping long-term to be able to provide access to digitized Greek texts - but there are still many legal challenges. It will likely take many years to resolve this problem. TLG has been digitizing Greek texts since the 1970's).

Perseus (Tufts University) provides many texts online. But Diogenes is designed to use TLG texts, PHI texts from the Packard Humanities Institute http://www.packhum.org/phi/ and the Duke Papyri database. I believe the PHI texts have been released to the public (Perhaps someone can provide a link). I do not know if Diogenes can link directly to the PHI texts, or if they must be downloaded by the individual. I also believe that the Duke database is now publicly available.

In order to use the lexicon or parsing portions of Diogenes without referring to the Greek TLG texts, one must start Diogenes, and select the corresponding item from the "Action" drop-down menu box. Select either 'Look up a Word in the Dictonary' or 'Parse the Inflexion of a Greek or Latin Word'. In the Query box, enter either the Greek/Latin word in betacode or unicode, and hit either enter or click on the 'Go' button.


If you have access to a digital Greek text in unicode format, you may use The Hopperizer utility http://www.katabiblon.com/tools/perseus-hopperizer/ to link that text to Diogenes.

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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by jk0592 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:29 am

Thanks Amadeus, the dictionary functions very well and is very useful. At first, I was at a loss for the TLG database, but as you mentioned, the "Look up a word in the dictionary" does not necessitate any such database. It is very convenient, as I was to use cut and paste on a word from Herodotus and get the translation directly.
This is much faster than looking up the pdf version of LSJ, or the pdf of the Grand Bailly. All these pdf dictionaries are in image form, and therefore cannot use the search functions, we have to navigate from page to page to locate a given word.
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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by paulusnb » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:41 pm

For PHI Texts, E-mail Bridget Comparini at Packard Humanities Institute phi@packhum.org. You will have to fax a release to her. I will try to upload the attachment. Dang. Will not let me. Well, try Bridget.
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Re: Diogenes software!!!

Post by kkkristo » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:09 am

Louis Sorenson, thanx indeed for the very fullness of your answer; its a pity that TLG isnt accesible free, but, you are right, the functions of dictionary and parsing words are wery usefull and make installation od Diogenes reasonable. Thank you!

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