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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Keesa » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:47 am

:-[ Somebody encourage me...am I ever going to get that advanced? I spent the whole day in town taking a test, and didn't even do a single lesson of Latin...and that list is overwhelming! Ouch! <br /><br />Keesa
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Lumen_et_umbra » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:52 am

Sorry, Keesa. Don't worry, however, it is not nearly as difficult as it may seem now. Sorry, again. Don't be discouraged.<br /><br /> ;D
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Keesa » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:55 am

[quote author=Lumen_et_umbra link=board=3;threadid=477;start=15#4163 date=1061081553]<br /> it is not nearly as difficult as it may seem now. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Thank you. I needed to hear that. Tomorrow I'll get back into Latin with a vengeance...and all my other languages, too! For tonight, I'm just going to be glad that it will come in time. <br /><br />Slainte! <br /><br />Keesa
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by benissimus » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:04 am

Hehe... there is also a short E+x as in Iudex. Perhaps this is the reason why they define third declension by the last letter and not by the whole ending ;o
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Lumen_et_umbra » Sun Aug 17, 2003 3:08 am

It is inefficient and malapropos to define the 3rd declension by its very last letter in the nominative case. They may as well say, "Shove it, you idiot. learn the endings by yourself!" <br /><br />This is, counterintuitively, a good tip ;); There are patterns to be recognized, which expedite the learning of the 3rd declension on one's own. Learning it with a prefabricated paradigm, such as the one I have written above, only precludes facile learning and forces one to learn by rote - the most basic and unadvanced form of learning.
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Post by Alundis » Sun Aug 17, 2003 3:31 am

Here's what I got form the Words dictionary. I have no idea what use this list is, but here you go ;p<br /><br />-ha<br />ANTIPASCHA, ANTIPASCHATIS: N 3 2 N \Low Sunday in the Greek rite;<br /><br />-ma<br />ZMEGMA, ZMEGMATIS: N 3 2 N \ointment; cleansing preparation; fine slag from copper melting;<br /><br />-ra<br />SICERA, SICERATIS: N 3 2 N \kind of spiritous intoxicating drink; fermented liquor, strong drink (Souter);<br /><br />-ac<br />LAC, LACTIS: N 3 2 N \milk; milky juice of plants; spat/spawn (of oyster);<br /><br />-ec<br />HALLEC, HALLECIS: N 3 2 N \herrings; a fish sauce; pickle;<br /><br />-ic<br />CARNIC, CARNICIS: N 3 3 C \fodder plant, tree-medick Medicago arborea; wood of this; scrubby snail-clover (<br /><br />-sc<br />FASC, FASCIS: N 3 1 M \bundles of rods (w/ax) (pl.), carried before the highest magistrates of Rome;<br /><br />-ce<br />DULCE, DULCIS: N 3 4 N \a sweet drink, sweets (pl);<br /><br />-le<br />VICTUALE, VICTUALIS: N 3 4 N \provisions (pl.), victuals, sustenance;<br /><br />-me<br />DEFORME, DEFORMIS: N 3 4 N \disgrace; shameful thing/deed;<br /><br />-ne<br />TRIENNE, TRIENNIS: N 3 4 N \triennial festival (pl.);<br /><br />-pe<br />PRAESEPE, PRAESEPIS: N 3 4 N \crib, manger, stall (cattle/horses feed); brothel; haunt, lodging, home turf;<br /><br />-re<br />TRIMESTRE, TRIMESTRIS: N 3 4 N \crops ripening in 3 months; spring-sown crops;<br /><br />-te<br />TAPPETE, TAPPETIS: N 3 4 N \woolen cloth or rug used as a covering, hanging, carpet, tapestry;<br /><br />-ve<br />DECLIVE, DECLIVIS: N 3 4 N \slope, declivity; surface sloping downwards; (per decline => downwards);<br /><br />-ig<br />BITURIG, BITURIGIS: N 3 1 M \Bituriges (pl.), a people of SW Gaul, Aquitania - in Caesar's "Gallic War";<br /><br />-rg<br />TERG, TERGORIS: N 3 2 N \back (animal, meat); ridge, raised surface; far side; covering (animal/organ);<br /><br />-bi<br />STIBI, STIBIS: N 3 2 N \antimony; (used in eye-salve and makeup); stibium/sulphuret of antimony (L+S);<br /><br />-hi<br />CYPHI, CYPHIS: N 3 2 N \Egyptian perfuming powder;<br /><br />-li<br />CROTALI, CROTALIIS: N 3 4 N \ear-rings (pl.); ear pendants of several loosely hanging/rattling pearls;<br /><br />-mi<br />STIMMI, STIMMIS: N 3 2 N \antimony; (used in eye-salve and makeup); stibium/sulphuret of antimony (L+S);<br /><br />-ri<br />COMMERCARI, COMMERCARIIS: N 3 1 M \fellow-purchaser;<br /><br />-al<br />VITAL, VITALIS: N 3 4 N \grave clothes (pl.);<br /><br />-el<br />MEL, MELLIS: N 3 2 N \honey; sweetness; darling;<br /><br />-il<br />VIGIL, VIGILIS: N 3 1 M \watchman;<br /><br />-ll<br />PERDUELL, PERDUELLIS: N 3 3 M \national enemy;<br /><br />-ol<br />SOL, SOLIS: N 3 1 M \the sun;<br /><br />-ul<br />PROCONSUL, PROCONSULIS: N 3 1 M \proconsul, governor of a province;<br /><br />-em<br />EMBLEM, EMBLEMATIS: N 3 2 N \inlaid or mosaic work;<br /><br />-hm<br />DIDRACHM, DIDRACHMATIS: N 3 2 N \Greek silver coin, double drachma; (1/3000 talent) (half dollar);<br /><br />-lm<br />DIAPSALM, DIAPSALMIS: N 3 2 N \pause in music;<br /><br />-om<br />GLAUCOM, GLAUCOMIS: N 3 2 N \disease of the eye, cataract;<br /><br />-an<br />TITAN, TITANOS/IS: N 3 9 M \Titan; (one of race of gods/giants proceeding Olympians);<br /><br />-en<br />VOLUMEN, VOLUMINIS: N 3 2 N \book, chapter, fold;<br /><br />-in<br />DELPHIN, DELPHINIS: N 3 1 M \dolphin; ornament shaped like a dolphin; (part of water organ); constellation;<br /><br />-on<br />VISON, VISONTIS: N 3 1 M \bison; wild ox;<br /><br />-rn<br />UNICORN, UNICORNIS: N 3 3 M \unicorn, one-horned horse-like creature;<br /><br />-ao<br />PHARAO, PHARAONIS: N 3 1 M \Pharaoh, title of King of Egypt;<br /><br />-bo<br />UMBO, UMBONIS: N 3 1 M \boss (of a shield);<br /><br />-co<br />SALACO, SALACONIS: N 3 1 M \swaggerer, braggart;<br /><br />-do<br />VICISSITUDO, VICISSITUDINIS: N 3 1 F \change, vicissitude;<br /><br />-eo<br />LEO, LEONIS: N 3 1 M \lion;<br /><br />-fo<br />SIFO, SIFONIS: N 3 1 M \siphon; a fire-engine;<br /><br />-go<br />VORAGO, VORAGINIS: N 3 1 F \deep hole, chasm, watery hollow;<br /><br />-ho<br />SIPHO, SIPHONIS: N 3 1 M \siphon; a fire-engine;<br /><br />-io<br />VOMITIO, VOMITIONIS: N 3 1 F \vomit; vomited matter; act of vomiting;<br /><br />-lo<br />VOLO, VOLONIS: N 3 1 M \volunteers (pl.); (in the Second Punic War);<br /><br />-mo<br />TEMO, TEMONIS: N 3 1 M \pole, beam; tongue of a wagon or chariot;<br /><br />-no<br />TOLLENO, TOLLENONIS: N 3 1 M \machine for raising weights, a crane;<br /><br />-po<br />PEPO, PEPONIS: N 3 1 M \watermelon; (other such/goard); species of large melon (L+S); pumpkin;<br /><br />-ro<br />VERBERO, VERBERONIS: N 3 1 M \scoundrel;<br /><br />-so<br />PISO, PISONIS: N 3 1 M \Piso, Roman cognomen; L. Calpurnius Piso, consul 58 BC; M. Pupius Piso, 61 BC;<br /><br />-to<br />PONTO, PONTONIS: N 3 1 M \large flat boat, barge; punt; pontoon;<br /><br />-uo<br />HELLUO, HELLUONIS: N 3 1 M \glutton, squanderer;<br /><br />-vo<br />ROLVO, ROLVONIS: N 3 1 M \Rolf;<br /><br />-xo<br />COXO, COXONIS: N 3 1 M \hobbling;<br /><br />-yo<br />BOTRYO, BOTRYONIS: N 3 1 M \bunch/cluster of grapes;<br /><br />-ar<br />TORCULAR, TORCULARIS: N 3 4 N \wine/oil press; pressing room, room housing a wine/oil press; oil cellar (L+S);<br /><br />-er<br />VOMER, VOMERIS: N 3 1 M \ploughshare; stylus (for writing with (L+S); (metaphor for penis);<br /><br />-or<br />VULGATOR, VULGATORIS: N 3 1 M \divulger;<br /><br />-tr<br />TRIMETR, TRIMETRIS: N 3 1 M \trimeter;<br /><br />-ur<br />VULTUR, VULTURIS: N 3 1 M \vulture;<br /><br />-yr<br />MARTYR, MARTYRIS: N 3 1 M \martyr; witness;<br /><br />-as<br />VOLUPTAS, VOLUPTATIS: N 3 1 F \pleasure, delight, enjoyment;<br /><br />-bs<br />URBS, URBIS: N 3 3 F \city; City of Rome;<br /><br />-cs<br />ARCS, ARCIS: N 3 3 F \citadel, stronghold; height; the Capitoline hill Rome; defense, refuge;<br /><br />-es<br />XERXES, XERXIS: N 3 3 M \Xerxes; (son of Darius, King of Persia 485-465 BC); (invaded Greece 480 BC);<br /><br />-is<br />VORSIPELLIS, VORSIPELLIS: N 3 3 M \shape-changer, who can metamorphose to different shape; double-dealer (Vulgate);<br /><br />-ls<br />PULS, PULTIS: N 3 3 F \meal, porridge, mush (used in sacrifice and given to sacred chickens);<br /><br />-ms<br />HIEMS, HIEMIS: N 3 1 F \winter, winter time; rainy season; cold, frost; storm, stormy weather;<br /><br />-ns<br />VALENS, VALENTIS: N 3 1 M \Valens; (coemperor 364-378 and brother of Valentinian); (lost at Adrianople);<br /><br />-os<br />SEMISOS, SEMISSIS: N 3 1 M \half an as; half; half of any unit; 6% per annum (1/2% per month);<br /><br />-ps<br />STIRPS, STIRPIS: N 3 3 F \stock, plant; race, lineage; character;<br /><br />-rs<br />SORS, SORTIS: N 3 3 F \lot, fate; oracular response;<br /><br />-ts<br />BUCCONIATS, BUCCONIATIS: N 3 3 F \species of vine in Thurium the fruit of which is picked only after first frost;<br /><br />-us<br />VULNUS, VULNERIS: N 3 2 N \wound; mental/emotional hurt; injury to one's interests; wound of love;<br /><br />-ys<br />PELAMYS, PELAMYDIS: N 3 1 F \young tunafish;<br /><br />-at<br />SOLIDITAT, SOLIDITATIS: N 3 1 F \solidity, freedom from cavities; density/firmness of texture, solidity;<br /><br />-ct<br />LACT, LACTIS: N 3 2 N \milk; milky juice of plants; spat/spawn (of oyster);<br /><br />-ut<br />SINCIPUT, SINCIPITIS: N 3 2 N \half/side of a head (as article of food); the smoked cheek of a pig; (brain);<br /><br />-ax<br />VORAX, VORACIS: N 3 1 M \ravenous; insatiable; devouring;<br /><br />-ex<br />VORTEX, VORTICIS: N 3 1 M \whirlpool, eddy, vortex; crown of the head; peak, top, summit; the pole;<br /><br />-ix<br />VIVIRADIX, VIVIRADICIS: N 3 1 F \cutting with a root, a layer;<br /><br />-lx<br />FALX, FALCIS: N 3 3 F \sickle. scythe; pruning knife; curved blade; hook for tearing down walls;<br /><br />-nx<br />SEPTUNX, SEPTUNCIS: N 3 1 M \seven-twelfths;<br /><br />-ox<br />VOX, VOCIS: N 3 1 F \voice, tone, expression;<br /><br />-rx<br />MERX, MERCIS: N 3 3 F \commodity; merchandise )pl.), goods;<br /><br />-ux<br />TRADUX, TRADUCIS: N 3 1 M \vine-layer;<br /><br />-yx<br />SARDONYX, SARDONYCHOS/IS: N 3 9 C \sardonyx, precious stone;<br /><br />-ly<br />MOLY, MOLYOS/IS: N 3 9 N \plant (white flower and black root) (mythical used by Odysseus against Circe);<br /><br />
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Lumen_et_umbra » Sun Aug 17, 2003 3:37 am

Wow! :o My list was depressingly inadequate!<br />Though, still a decent guide to the endings found in the 3rd declension... ::I am trying to salvage some vestige of my dignity::<br /><br /> :-\
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Episcopus » Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:49 am

>:(<br /><br />Don't they have a REALLY mad smiley on this site? Ah this will have to suffice >:(<br /><br />This just makes me cry not 'this is easy'.
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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Skylax » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:57 am

[quote author=Alundis link=board=3;threadid=477;start=15#4170 date=1061091116]<br />Here's what I got form the Words dictionary. I have no idea what use this list is, but here you go ;p<br /><br />-ic<br />CARNIC, CARNICIS: N 3 3 C \fodder plant, tree-medick Medicago arborea; wood of this; scrubby snail-clover (<br /><br />-sc<br />FASC, FASCIS: N 3 1 M \bundles of rods (w/ax) (pl.), carried before the highest magistrates of Rome;<br /><br />-ig<br />BITURIG, BITURIGIS: N 3 1 M \Bituriges (pl.), a people of SW Gaul, Aquitania - in Caesar's "Gallic War";<br /><br />-rg<br />TERG, TERGORIS: N 3 2 N \back (animal, meat); ridge, raised surface; far side; covering (animal/organ);<br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well, in the words before, the form before the one ending in -is has got no linguistic value. It is neither a stem nor a nominative singular. It is the group of letters that the computer must use to proceed with analysis. The corresponding nominatives are CARNIX (?), FASCIS, BITVRIX (but you find always the plural BITVRIGES), TERGVS (TERGVS, TERGORIS is less frequent than TERGVM, TERGI)

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Re:Casa, -ae

Post by Lumen_et_umbra » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:17 pm

Hey! You're right, Skylax. I didn't even bother to read the words in that list. They are predominatly repetitions. Besides, my inadequacy could only be in the summarization of the 3-rd declension nominative endings, not in declining and recognizing them - which really isn't difficult at all. ;)
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