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Pronunciation

Post by Puella Parva » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:35 pm

I was wondering how exactly are you supposed to pronounce Latin? I can copy the accents of lots of different nationalities, and I was wondering which accent Latin is more like, if any?
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Keesa » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:52 pm

D'Ooge has some excellent information on the proper pronunciation of each letter in the Latin alphabet; as far as similar languages, probably the Romance languages are the closest, since they share Latin as a root. (Romance languages=French, Spanish, Italian) <br /><br />Keesa
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Skylax » Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:29 pm

I would say Italian.

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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Puella Parva » Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:34 pm

Okay, Thanks!!!! :D
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Episcopus » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:20 pm

I would also second Italian as closest, with a slight hint of Swedish/Russian hybrid to quell the slightly high pitched Italian accent - then make your voice similar to that of an old evil guy and you have true Latin. <br /><br />http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/VV/<br /><br />is episcopus eum locum reperit ;D causa superbiae episcopi est <br />
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Puella Parva » Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:23 pm

Hey, thanks for the link!!
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by benissimus » Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:02 am

[quote author=Episcopus link=board=3;threadid=424;start=0#3366 date=1060543206]<br />then make your voice similar to that of an old evil guy and you have true Latin. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />No!!!!! It can be so beautiful...
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by mariek » Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:31 am

<br />This was mentioned on this site a short while ago, it offers pronunciation sound files.<br /><br />Read Latin Right<br />http://www.classicsnet.plus.com/readitr ... _intro.htm<br /><br />I also have this in my notes. It's a pronunciation guide from Benissimus. I think you'll find it helpful. <br /><br /><br />Long vowels are often marked by a macron, or overline in learning texts but not in genuine Latin. These are to help with pronunciation so that you can differentiate between long and short vowels. Short vowels are really just the same as long vowels except that you pronounce them in a "clipped" manner. If you know any of the Romance languages, they are all pretty similar to Latin. For all intents and purposes, these should suffice:<br /><br />Long (with macron line) Short (without macron)<br />A- AH as in "fAther" a- UH as in "galA"<br />E- AY as in "rEin" or "gAte" e- EH as in "pEt"<br />I- EE as in "fEEt" or "Ink" i- IH as in "pIck"<br />O- OH as in "pOke" o- O as in "Or"<br />U- OOH as in "gOOse" or "flUte" u- U as in "pUt"<br /><br />The Greek letter "upsilon" is found in many words adopted by Latin and is pronounced similarly to a French "u" which is quite undescribable unfortunately if you do not already know. If you cannot find someone to demonstrate it for you, I have heard it explained as a mix of (Latin) "I" and "U" or as a "half-assed" "O" . It has both long and short forms just like all the other vowels.<br /><br />There are also a variety of diphthong, letters that sort of are pronounced quickly when they are together and become one syllable.<br /><br />AE or Æ is pronounced like "I" as in "rIde".<br />OE or &#338; is pronounced like "OY" as in "bOY" or "bOIl".<br />EI is pronounced like "AY" as in "rEIn".<br />AU is pronounced like "OW" as in "pOUnd".<br />EU is a rare diphthong; just combine a Latin "E" and "U" and you will have it. Don't use it unless you know it is pronounced as such.<br />UI is a rare diphthong; same as above.<br /><br />There are some older diphthong such as AI, but you probably won't encounter those unless you are studying very old Latin.<br /><br />

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Re:Pronunciation

Post by Keesa » Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:29 am

[quote author=mariek link=board=3;threadid=424;start=0#3450 date=1060576298]<br />The Greek letter "upsilon" is found in many words adopted by Latin and is pronounced similarly to a French "u" which is quite undescribable unfortunately if you do not already know. If you cannot find someone to demonstrate it for you, I have heard it explained as a mix of (Latin) "I" and "U" or as a "half-assed" "O" . It has both long and short forms just like all the other vowels.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Unfortunately, I do know about the French "u"-it's a killer! Mamma (whose native language is French) has spent whole half hours standing there, just making the sound, while I try to imitate her...so far, I haven't gotten it. <br /><br />Keesa
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Re:Pronunciation

Post by ingrid70 » Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:36 pm

[quote author=Keesa link=board=3;threadid=424;start=0#3492 date=1060601397]<br /><br />Unfortunately, I do know about the French "u"-it's a killer! <br /><br />Keesa<br />[/quote]<br /><br />As far as I know, most French people survive it :). <br /><br />Ingrid
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