Cletus Pavanetto's Graecarum litterarum institutiones

[philplus]

I just found on Amazon.it two volumes of Cletus Pavanetto's Greek textbook "Graecarum litterarum institutiones". They are written in Latin, which interests me a lot. Has anybody used this textbook to learn Greek? Would very much appreciate your comments on this book.

The link for part 1: https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/882130 ... UTF8&psc=1

[Markos]

I have not seen it (is a preview available?) but I like the concept. It's been alleged that code switching between L2 and L3 is less destructive to language acquisition than code switching between L1 and L2.

[rmedinap]

Has anybody used this textbook to learn Greek? Would very much appreciate your comments on this book.

I've never heard of Pavanetto's Graecarum litterarum institutiones, thanks for the info, I'll see if I can buy it.

Sadly I didn't learn Greek with such a fancy method but I experiment a lot while teaching, so far my efforts of teaching Greek using only Greek have been only partially successful (I blame mostly the lack of material and my own laziness in making some of my own), but I have very good experiences teaching Greek with Latin or rehearsing what's been learned with Latin.

For that purpose Wordsworth's Graecae grammaticae rudimenta in usum scholarum as well as Smith's Græcæ grammatices rudimenta have been very useful. Much more useful for my purposes is the older and anonymous version of the Rudimenta, it has the advantage of providing, most of the time, the Greek names along with the Latin of the Grammar subject at hand, Smith does so too but to a much lesser degree.

That said I'd be very reticent to expose a beginner to this material (unless he has a very solid command of Latin). Mostly because it goes against my principle of teaching with so few grammar as possible and as much examples (comprehensible input) as possible.

If anyone has Pavanetto's book I'd be much interested to see how it compares to the books I've mentioned.

[horatius]

I have not seen it (is a preview available?) but I like the concept. It's been alleged that code switching between L2 and L3 is less destructive to language acquisition than code switching between L1 and L2.

Counter-point: Luke's Greek-via-Latin teaching series.

[xiaq]

I saw this thread, got curious and ordered both parts of this book. It's not actually a textbook for ancient Greek in Latin; it's an introduction to ancient Greek literature in Latin. It's interesting nonetheless.

It's out of stock on Amazon but you can order it on the publisher website (I'm told not to post any links when I'm new, so you'll need to search for it).

For anybody interested in the contents of this book, here's the table of contents for both parts.

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ORIGINES
Caput I Graecorum scriptorum indoles et munus - Graecae stirpes earumque origo

AETAS IONICA
Caput II Ionica antiquissima Gens - Achaei populi
Caput III Homerus eiusque poemata - Quaestio Homerica
Caput IV Poetae epici Homeri sectatores - Homerici hymni
Caput V Hesiodus eiusque carmina quae feruntur
Caput VI Antiquissimi elegorum praecipui auctores: Callinus, Tyrtaeus, Mimnermus; Solon poeta, rerum civilium peritus
Caput VII Iambici scriptores: Archilochus, Hipponax, Semonides, Amorginus
Caput VIII Sermo Aeolicus - Lyrici poetae: Sappho et Alcaeus
Caput IX Phocylides et Theognis, "gnomici" elegorum scriptores; Anacreon Teius, lyricus poeta monodicus
Caput X Dorici sermonis proprietates - Alcman, Arion, Stesichorus, Ibychus, Simonides Ceus, auctores carminum chori
Caput XI Pindarus et Bacchylides, chori carminum scriptores
Caput XII Antiquissimi philosophi: Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes, Pythagoras, Xenophanes
Caput XIII Prosae orationis auctores antiquissimi: Aesopus, Heraclitus, Hecataeus
Caput XIV Antiqua tragoediae testimonia: Thespis, Choerilus, Pratinas, Phrynichus

AETAS ATTICA
Caput XV Dialecti Atticae proprietates. Artium scriptores: Protagoras, Prodicus, Ceus, Gorgias Leontinus
Caput XVI Herodotus, «historiae pater»
Caput XVII Thucydides, historicus scriptor
Caput XVIII Athenienses philosophi: Socrates, Plato
Caput XIX Xenophon, "apis Attica"
Caput XX Aeschylus eiusque fabulae superstitis
Caput XXI Sophocles, clarus poeta tragicus
Caput XXII Euripides eiusque egregia scribendi ratio: Iphigenia Aulidensis et Baccharum loci selecti
Caput XXIII Comoediae Doricae Siciliensis origo: Atticae comoediae antiquissimi auctores
Caput XXIV Aristophanes, praeclarus comicus poeta

Appendix
Scriptorum Index litterarum ordine dispositus
Conspectus historicus-chronologicus litterarum aetatum et scriptorum

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Praemonendum

AETAS ATTICA
Caput I Aristoteles, alter philosophorum princeps
Caput II Athenienses oratores: Antiphon, Andocides, Lysias, Isocrates, Isaeus, Lycurgus, Hyperides
Caput III Demosthenes, oratorum princeps. Aeschines Atheniensis, Dinarchus Corinthius
Caput IV Historici minores: Ctesias, Ephorus, Theopompus, Philistus, Cratippus; Hellenica Oxyrhinchia
Caput V Comoediae Mediae auctores praecipui: Antiphanes, Anaxandrides, Alexis, Eubulus, Theophilus, Philippides

AETAS ALEXANDRINA seu HELLENISTICA
Caput VI Aetatis Alexandrinae notae peculiares
Caput VII Potiores Novae Comoediae auctores: Menander, Diphilus, Philemon, Posidippus Cassandrensis
Caput VIII Aetatis Alexandrinae poetae praestantiores: Philetas, Callimachus, Hermesianax, Phanocles
Caput IX Epicorum carminum scriptores: Apollonius Rhodius, Choerilus, Rhianus, Euphorion, Lycophron, Eratosthenes eruditus
Caput X Bucolicae poesis cultores: Theocritus Syracosius, Moschus et Bion; Herondas (Herodas), mimorum auctor
Caput XI Poesis epico-didascalica: Arati Phaenomena; Nicander Aetolus, Phoenix Colophonius, Cercidas
Caput XII Epigrammaton scriptores: Anyte, Nossis, Leonidas Tarantinus, Asclepiades Samius, Posidippus, Simnias Rhodius, Meleager, Sotades Maronites
Caput XIII Historici Scriptores: Hegesias Magnesius, Hieronymus Cardianus, Duris Samius, Timaeus Tauromenitus, Berosus, Euhemerus Messanius, Polybius, Phylarchus
Caput XIV Philosophica doctrina: Epicurus; Philodemus Gadareus
Caput XV Stoicorum ratio disciplinae: Zenon, Cleanthes, Chrysippus, Panaetius, Posidonius; Academici Arcesilaus et Carneades; Pyrrho scepticus; Cynici: Antisthenes, Diogenes, Bion, Menippus
Caput XVI Parthenius elegiarius; Euclides et Archimedes mathematici; Herophilus et Erasistratus biologi; Eratosthenes et Zenodotus philologi; grammatici Aristophanes, Aristarchus, Dionysius, Crates M.; Aristarchus astronomus

AETAS ROMANA seu IMPERIALIS
Aetatis Romanae notae praecipuae
Caput XVII Plutarchus, philosophus Platonicus et scriptor
Caput XVIII Rhetores et Historici: Theophrastus, Apollodorus, Theodorus, Longinus, Theon Aelius, Dionysius H., Nicolaus, Diodorus Siculus, Flavius Arrianus, Appianus, Cassius D. Cocceianus
Caput XIX Strabo et Pausanias, Terrarum descriptiores; Ptolemaeus Claudius et Diophantus, mathematici; Archigenes Syrus, Rufus Ephesius et Claudius Galenus, medici
Caput XX Altera Sophistica, seu nova Sophistica: Dion Cocceianus, Favorinus, Aelius Aristides, Philostratus, Claudius Aelianus, Athenaeus, Diogenes Laërtius
Caput XXI Lucianus Samosatensis, alterius sophisticae cultor, rhetor, recitator adventicius
Caput XXII Fabulae Romanensis Graecae primordia: Nini fabula; Chariton, Xenophon E., Achilles T., Heliodorus, Longus; Aristides, Achilleus Tat., Aristaenetus
Caput XXIII Aetatis Romanae philosophi praestantiores: Stoici: Cornutus, Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius; Neoplatonici: Ammonius, Plotinus, Porphyrius, Iamblichus
Caput XXIV Grammatici: Didymus, Theon, Hephaestio; Rhetores: Libanius et Himerius; Themistius orator; Lexicographi: Pamphylus, Stephanus, Suidas, Zenobius; Ioannes Stobaeus, collectaneorum confector
Caput XXV Flavius Claudius Iulianus, postremus philosophus ethnicus; Proclus, sacrorum desiderio flagrans

Scriptorum index, literarum ordine dispositus
Fontes praecipui quibus hoc volumen instruitur
Conspectus historicus-chronologicus litterarum aetatum, scriptorum rerumque actorum