The Odyssey Reading Group is ready - Starting October 27th

annis · Post by **annis** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:56 am

The Odyssey Study Group is now open for admission.

I'm calling this list "Odyssey Forever" right now. If we keep the pace we used in the Minckwitz (Odyssey 12) list, I estimate it'll take about 12 years to complete the entire Odyssey.

Not that I mind. In any case for now we'll stick to 15-20 (maybe 25) lines a week. We can alter as necessary once we get into the swing of things.

Though Textkit does host a number of books of the Odyssey, it does not currently have books 1-4. So participants will need either to acquire their own text of the Odyssey (I recommend Stanford - comes with commentary), or use Perseus for a few books.

Since the nature of this list is a bit different, we'll let people jump in whenever they want, assuming a reasonable number of participants (I'd think 10 active participants at any given time about the limit). I'd prefer people who join commit to participating in the work for at least a complete book.

If you plan to join and lurk, please do not join yet. I want Textkit members intending to participate actively to get first chance. I'll use the number of subscriptions to decide if I should announce the list in other Classics lists.

Here's the main info page: Odyssey Study Group Information. From this page you will be able to get a general overview of what we hope to accomplish, a link to the session page which has the provisional schedule, as well as a link to the mailing list subscription page.

Jeff Tirey · Post by **Jeff Tirey** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:43 am

I have Perrin and Seymour's, 8 Books of Homer's Odyssey which covers Books 1 - IV and Books IX - XII. Books V - XIII are already online.

Nice thing with the Perrin and Seymour textbook is that there's a core vocabulary section in the back covering Books I - XII.

I'll get this books online before the 24th.

jeff

annis · Post by **annis** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:02 pm

jeff wrote:Nice thing with the Perrin and Seymour textbook is that there's a core vocabulary section in the back covering Books I - XII.

I look forward to seeing that.

I'll get this books online before the 24th.

Wonderful! Thanks.

Kopio · Post by **Kopio** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:52 pm

Yes!!!

I'm not formally studying Greek anymore, and probably won't for several years....this should be a fun and interesting endeavor.

Now my only question is, what is better......Stanford or Perrin and Seymour.....anybody check them both out and have any comments?

annis · Post by **annis** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:57 pm

Kopio wrote:Now my only question is, what is better......Stanford or Perrin and Seymour.....anybody check them both out and have any comments?

I find the commentaries of the P&S chattier, but generally similar. The text is based on a venerable German edition, but I've not done a check to see how it differs from the Allen OCT, upon which Stanford and the H&H commentaries are based.

Major difference: Stanford puts his notes at the end of the text, P&S at the bottom of the page of the line they comment on, which I find more convenient.

I doubt there is any major reason to strongly prefer one to the other (except on price, of course, though about $20 for the first half of the Odyssey with commentary is hardly excessive).

mingshey · Post by **mingshey** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:15 am

Great!
I think I could somehow push myself if there's a scheduled study group. Working untill late in the night, I had little time these days and was losing the grip on my study.
And I was about to start anew on Homeric Greek.

Emma_85 · Post by **Emma_85** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:06 pm

I have parts of book 1 to 4, I suppose I could just get the rest from Perseus. Book 12 was fun - I have so many notes and translations lying around here

- one day I might sort through them and go over them again.

chrisb · Post by **chrisb** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:04 am

Great!! Count me in!
I've read the extracts from Homer in the JACT Reading Greek Text book some time ago, but I have been needing an incentive to egt to grips with a whole book. This is just the thing.

chrisb

Post by **klewlis** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:08 am

I wish I could do it but I know for a fact I would not be able to keep up. :P

especially now that I've started working on italian...

annis · Post by **annis** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:08 am

klewlis wrote:I wish I could do it but I know for a fact I would not be able to keep up.

especially now that I've started working on italian...

We'll be going on, well, until the end. Depending on the attrition rate I will announce here when we're about to move into a new book. I'm expecting people to come and go a bit (hopefully not faster than once a book).

Join us when you can.

Post by **klewlis** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:14 am

annis wrote:
klewlis wrote:I wish I could do it but I know for a fact I would not be able to keep up. :P

especially now that I've started working on italian...
We'll be going on, well, until the end. Depending on the attrition rate I will announce here when we're about to move into a new book. I'm expecting people to come and go a bit (hopefully not faster than once a book).

Join us when you can. :)

I have thought about that... but then I would be missing parts of it (unless by some miracle I could catch up, which is doubtful... but then, you are going to be at it for a long while!). Since I haven't ever read it in ANY language, I really want to be able to do the whole thing without missing pieces. But perhaps I will try... perhaps within the month my schedule will slow down enough that I could try... (doubtful, but we'll see!).

:)

Kopio · Post by **Kopio** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:38 pm

Is there any preferred way that I can buy the texts via a link in Textkit? I know sometimes we have feature books, and I am assuming when we buy them through the site we get a little compensation.

ALSO, I was almost thinking about buying the Loeb, since I have started collecting them....is the text the same as the Perrin and Seymour?

I will probably get the Perrin and Seymour simply because of the commentary aspect. I have lexicons coming out the wazoo, so the lexical part if thing shouldn't be too tough (barring bizare Homeric forms that my Koine eyes aren't quite used to seeing!)

mariek · Post by **mariek** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:49 pm

Kopio wrote:Is there any preferred way that I can buy the texts via a link in Textkit? I know sometimes we have feature books, and I am assuming when we buy them through the site we get a little compensation.

YES! If you order books through the Amazon search link on Textkit, Jeff gets a small percentage from the purchase for maintaining the Textkit site. Just click on the Support Textkit link below to get started.

http://www.textkit.com/support/

Kopio · Post by **Kopio** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:29 am

Ok.....my next question is.....can I buy either of the suggested books on Amazon???? My hunch is NO! I can find the Loeb all right, but I can't find anything remotely like a greek text with commentary on Homer. Any hints or suggestions would be welcome.

annis · Post by **annis** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:24 pm

Kopio wrote:Ok.....my next question is.....can I buy either of the suggested books on Amazon???? My hunch is NO!

Stanford is available:

http://www.textkit.com/0_1853995029.html

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wm

Emma_85 · Post by **Emma_85** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:13 pm

Nice thing with the Perrin and Seymour textbook is that there's a core vocabulary section in the back covering Books I - XII.

I'll get this books online before the 24th.

Still waiting ...

So when will they be up?

chrisb · Post by **chrisb** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:10 pm

Hi Emma,

Go top 'Groups' and click on the link to Session A. You will find a link to Book 1 there. Unfortunately, it is just the text so far - no notes or vocabulary.

chrisb