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Post by klewlis » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:57 am

From Xenophon's Anabasis, 3.2.10

What is [face=SPIonic]oi(per[/face]? It's not in middle liddel and the perseus help tool only gives me [face=SPIonic]o([/face]

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Post by Kasper » Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:47 am

I believe it means "whither", but I could be wrong, I'm rather new at Greek.
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”

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Post by mingshey » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:54 am

(many edits)
[face=SPIonic]oi(/[/face] is masc. pl. nom. of [face=SPIonic]o(/j[/face].
In Elements, Euclid uses '[face=SPIonic]o(/per[/face]' as "the very thing that" as in "[face=SPIonic]o(/per e)/dei dei=cai[/face](the very thing that needed to be shown)".
But this kind of particles change their meaning abruptly according to the gender, number, and cases. In this case the note in Goodwin says its a causal relative pronoun.
Or you could refer to the White's Illustrated Dictionary of Anabasis, page 161, to find [face=SPIonic]o(/sper[/face] 'who certainly(rel. pron.)'.

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Post by Emma_85 » Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:56 pm

-per sort of emphasises a word. So oiper is the relative pronoun + per like Mingshey said. You could translated it by adding ‘especially’.
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Post by klewlis » Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:18 pm

interesting. painful. but interesting.

thanks. ;)

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