Calling the Canadian (He knows who he is)

Turpissimus · Post by **Turpissimus** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:07 pm

PeterD, tell me something about yourself.

I require something to ridicule, after you so rudely abused me in Greek forum.

Eureka · Post by **Eureka** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:03 am

Take it outside.

PeterD · Post by **PeterD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:52 am

I dare say, Turpissimus, while ad hominem attacks and agressive rhetorical behaviour are no strangers to discussing opposing points, nonetheless, it was not my intention when I replied to your post to ridicule or embarrass, but rather to inform you. My apologies if you felt otherwise.

While the less that is known about me the better

, I shall say this: I am a good person at heart who enjoys very much the company of good people, loves to debate and has one hell of a mischievous side.

~PeterD (a.k.a. ἑκηβόλος)

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:53 am

Eureka wrote:Take it outside.

That's telling them!

annis · Post by **annis** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:22 am

PeterD wrote:While the less that is known about me the better , I shall say this: I am a good person at heart who enjoys very much the company of good people, loves to debate and has one hell of a mischievous side.

I think several have missed Turpissumus' mischievous side, unless I have very badly misread his intentions.

So make something bad about yourself up, Mr. D, so he can write some blame poetry.

(I don't know about the Romans, but there's reason to believe at least some Greek blame poetry was of this in-group, joking around variety.)

PeterD · Post by **PeterD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:14 am

annis wrote: So make something bad about yourself up, Mr. D, so he can write some blame poetry.

OK William of the shining corslet, moderator of the Learning Greek board...here goes:

Turpissimus,

I drink my OJ out of the carton;

I have long, wavy hair (καρηκομοῶν);

sometimes I don't shave (still look good, though);

although I don't cry over spilled milk, I do have a (Greek) temper;

I am a rebel with too many causes who is always getting into trouble;

and finally, I have broken too many hearts.

~Mr. D

Eureka · Post by **Eureka** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:23 am

annis wrote:I think several have missed Turpissumus' mischievous side, unless I have very badly misread his intentions.

Oh, I figured he was joking. But I was too.

(There isn't actually any "outside" for them to take it to.)

Turpissimus · Post by **Turpissimus** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:36 pm

(I don't know about the Romans, but there's reason to believe at least some Greek blame poetry was of this in-group, joking around variety.)

Yes, Will, you're quite right. Catullus called his friends some quite offensive things. Cinaedus and pathicus were certainly used, and he described their activities too - pedicare and irrumare. I'm not sure about Martial but the words moechor and mentula certainly made more than one appearance. Mentula has the rather nice advantage that it forms a dactyl all on its own.

I believe, however, that I shall eschew the cruder forms of satire, believing the use of obscene language to be the province of teenagers, and instead restrict myself to ridiculing your hairstyle, Peter, and your need to overcompensate for your lack of success with women by telling us all about your imagined exploits.

And if you persist with this ridiculous false politeness, I shall become very angry indeed. So....Canadian.....

PeterD · Post by **PeterD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:17 pm

Turpissimus wrote:And if you persist with this ridiculous false politeness, I shall become very angry indeed. So....Canadian.....

Turpissimus, you have sullied my fine reputation for the last time.

Pistols at ten paces?

En garde!

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:15 am

PeterD wrote: Pistols at ten paces?

En garde!

Outside for sure now!

Eureka · Post by **Eureka** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:21 am

As long as you don't stand near the Greek books, it's alright. (We don't want to get blood on them.)

...Go stand next to the Latin books.

Keesa · Post by **Keesa** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:16 am

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:39 pm

Eureka wrote:...Go stand next to the Latin books.

Right. Greek books are too delicate.

Latin books are tough; they're sturdy; built to last. Thay already have lots of blood on them and they wear it well.

- Tim

Episcopus · Post by **Episcopus** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:02 pm

Turpissimus ridicule and mischievous behaviour do not belong in textkit. As a veteran here always trying to maintain peace with Eureka I must concur - please take your insults elsewhither. Plus Canadians are the best. I want to live in the mountains and hunt fish even though I vomit if one touches me.

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:13 pm

Episcopus wrote:Turpissimus ridicule and mischievous behaviour do not belong in textkit.

um, this is all in good natured jest.

As I understand it, they're trying to work themselves up into a lather in order to write greek verse; they're trying to get motivated to write. To do so, they need topics and have take adversarial postions into order to frame the "battle" of verse.

OTOH, if you're going to add some greek verse, then I'm off base and step aside.

- Tim

MDS · Post by **MDS** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:52 pm

Plus Canadians are the best. I want to live in the mountains and hunt fish even though I vomit if one touches me.

Just don't move to Saskatchewan then...you'll find no mountains.

Battle away guys!

Post by **klewlis** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:07 pm

MDS wrote:
Plus Canadians are the best. I want to live in the mountains and hunt fish even though I vomit if one touches me.
Just don't move to Saskatchewan then...you'll find no mountains. ;)

Battle away guys!

Well there is always what I call "the pimple on the prairies"--ie, Blackstrap ski hill. It is a manmade hill that apparently people ski on. lol. It sticks out like a sore thumb because it is so little but pokes up above the prairies. Funny thing. You won't find any fish there (though it does descend into the Quapelle valley...).

Turpissimus · Post by **Turpissimus** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:28 pm

As I understand it, they're trying to work themselves up into a lather in order to write greek verse;

Alas no. Propter egestatem meae linguae I shall not be versifying in Greek. I don't even understand the language, unfortunate as that is. And I know PeterD doesn't understand Latin, so it is unlikely that either of us will be able to appreciate the verses of the other.

In any event, given that several circumstances beyond my control have come to light, viz.

1) lack of dactyls in the Latin language
2) my own unfamiliarity with the rules relating to elision
3) difficulty with that really hard bit to get right at the end of the second half of the pentameter

...it appears that I will be unable to produce any meaningful verses unless given, let's say, a week.

In the meantime, it you want to take a look at my laughable effort so far, that can be found in the Elegy thread. It has not the technical skill of Benissimus' verse but I think there is more artistic unity to the piece, even if it is not something the Romans would compose verse about.

I'm off to read Propertius' Elegies, need some inspiration and I think Assisi's finest is the man to provide it.

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:43 pm

Turpissimus wrote: Alas no. Propter egestatem meae linguae I shall not be versifying in Greek. I don't even understand the language, unfortunate as that is. And I know PeterD doesn't understand Latin, so it is unlikely that either of us will be able to appreciate the verses of the other.

OK, I'm stumped.

I have no idea then what you two were up to.

- Tim

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:53 pm

Episcopus,

My sincerest apologies for my inaccurate comments.

- Tim

Turpissimus · Post by **Turpissimus** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:01 am

I engaged PeterD in this "contest" simply because he seemed the easiest to ridicule. An important life lesson that every adult must at some point learn, is that those different from the rest of us must be constantly teased. Besides, I knew he was man enough to take any japes in good humour.

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:46 am

Turpissimus wrote:I engaged PeterD in this "contest" simply because he seemed the easiest to ridicule.

Huh???

Turpissimus wrote:An important life lesson that every adult must at some point learn, is that those different from the rest of us must be constantly teased.

What???

Wow. You really lost me here. I mean, way, way lost.

- tim

Turpissimus · Post by **Turpissimus** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:13 am

I wrote:An important life lesson that every adult must at some point learn, is that those different from the rest of us must be constantly teased.

Sarcasm. Sorry. On the internet it doesn't quite come across. I'm just kidding you. My teasing of PeterD has no important moral lesson behind it.

I wrote:easiest to ridicule etc.

PeterD has a high profile on these boards, and is often unfairly attacked for his actually-only-slightly-leftish opinions. I felt his larger-that-life personality would provide adequate substance for a mocking couplet. As to the question "Why mock anyone?", well, most elegiac couplets I've read are either romantic (Propertius) or satirical (Martial). Since I don't have a girlfriend, I suppose I'm stuck with satire. And that means the couplet has to have a target. Why not a man of good humour who can take the joke?

Eureka · Post by **Eureka** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:41 am

Turpissimus wrote:I knew he was man enough to take any japes in good humour.

What's a 'jape'?

...And would I be able to pick one up from a hardware store for around $20?

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:20 am

That actually hurt.
It took me all night to get my head screwed on straight again.
There was actual surgery involved.
For the next six weeks I can't turn my head like that. (Ouch!)

sigh.

Shaw was right.

- Tim

Episcopus · Post by **Episcopus** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:54 pm

Timothy wrote:Episcopus,

My sincerest apologies for my inaccurate comments.

- Tim

Yes so you should be Timothy. You should be banned from textkit Timothy.

As for the technical skill of benissimus in verse, bring it Stevie I would whoop you. I have been taught by D'Ooge remember.

Michaelyus · Post by **Michaelyus** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:59 pm

Turpissimus wrote:An important life lesson that every adult must at some point learn, is that those different from the rest of us must be constantly teased.

Something which I deride and refute and go against completely, on account of my various past references and experiences pertaining to various situations of which there are multiple viewpoints of which a small spectrum are acceptable to me, of which I hold, but other points of reference which are unacceptable to me but of which other people find "correct". Something which seems so dichotomous to me can be often insignificant to others. This, if anyone has noticed, is a direct generalisation of this topic; it applies to such a discussion.

Turpissimus wrote:Besides, I knew he was man enough to take any japes in good humour.

Definitely not me.

Timothy · Post by **Timothy** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:30 pm

Episcopus wrote:
Timothy wrote:Episcopus,

My sincerest apologies for my inaccurate comments.

- Tim
Yes so you should be Timothy. You should be banned from textkit Timothy.

I wasn't that sincere.

- Tim

Michaelyus · Post by **Michaelyus** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:10 pm

Should this topic renamed "Gradus ad Fescinna"?