Il 362

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Il 362

Post by Constantinus Philo » Wed May 01, 2019 6:23 pm

I just want to make sure that my scanning is correct
τΕκνον τΙ κλαιΕΙς τι δε σΕ φρένας Ικετο πΕνθος
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Re: Il 362

Post by jeidsath » Wed May 01, 2019 7:26 pm

Yes, you've capitalized the ictus of each foot.
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Re: Il 362

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Wed May 01, 2019 7:58 pm

Constantinus Philo wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 6:23 pm
I just want to make sure that my scanning is correct
τΕκνον τΙ κλαιΕΙς τι δε σΕ φρένας Ικετο πΕνθος
This is not what I recognize as scansion. If you are marking long syllables with a capital, it should be:

τΕκΝΟν | τΙ κλΑΙ | ΕΙς τι δε | σΕ φρενας | Ικετο | πΕΝθος

I've used the vertical bar to separate the feet.

You might find this helpful:

http://www.aoidoi.org/articles/meter/intro.pdf
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Re: Il 362

Post by Constantinus Philo » Wed May 01, 2019 8:16 pm

thank you
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Re: Il 362

Post by mwh » Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 pm

Constantin’s method of scanning is just as good as Barry’s, if not better (less question-begging). But both are badly inadequate, inasmuch as they fail to recognize the caesura, here coinciding with the syntactical structure. There’s only one break in the line, and it comes after κλαιεις. Scanning foot by foot (and inserting bar lines!) ruins the dynamics of the verse. Even schoolchildren should be taught better.

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Re: Il 362

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Thu May 02, 2019 2:07 am

mwh wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 pm
Constantin’s method of scanning is just as good as Barry’s, if not better (less question-begging). But both are badly inadequate, inasmuch as they fail to recognize the caesura, here coinciding with the syntactical structure. There’s only one break in the line, and it comes after κλαιεις. Scanning foot by foot (and inserting bar lines!) ruins the dynamics of the verse. Even schoolchildren should be taught better.
1) I am not sure how I'm assuming the truth of my conclusion in my argument.

2) What suggestions do you have better to represent scansion visually?

3) Yes, I forgot to mark the Caesura, my apologies.
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