Lucian's Dialogues prepared for schools
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Lucian's Dialogues prepared for schools
I am having trouble finding copies of W.H.D. Rouse's notes to this:
http://books.google.com/books/about/Luc ... xLAAAAMAAJ
Does anyone know of a copy? I know that it's in many libraries, but I can't find it on the used market. EDIT: I am looking for the notes (vol. 2), not the dialogues themselves.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Luc ... xLAAAAMAAJ
Does anyone know of a copy? I know that it's in many libraries, but I can't find it on the used market. EDIT: I am looking for the notes (vol. 2), not the dialogues themselves.
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
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Re: Lucian's Dialogues prepared for schools
There's quite a good short anthology of Lucian's works, pitched at school-level students, by Keith Sidwell in the Bristol Classical Press (1986). There's extensive translation help as well as some brief notes.
He's an excellent author for intermediate students, in my opinion - he writes in nice clear Attic, and the dialogues and stories are often very funny (not to mention highly informative as regards the various philosophical traditions).
He's an excellent author for intermediate students, in my opinion - he writes in nice clear Attic, and the dialogues and stories are often very funny (not to mention highly informative as regards the various philosophical traditions).
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Thank you for the suggestion. I am very interested in Rouse's notes in particular, as they are in Greek.
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
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I have found a digital copy:
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009643054
Click Full View to access. Perhaps someone from a "partner institution" could download the PDF? I don't have the access for that.
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009643054
Click Full View to access. Perhaps someone from a "partner institution" could download the PDF? I don't have the access for that.
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
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Never mind. I wrote a program to grab all of the files, zipped them to PDF, and have uploaded everything to archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/luciandialoguesnotes
The dialogues themselves are available here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=uJxLAAAAMAAJ
https://archive.org/details/luciandialoguesnotes
The dialogues themselves are available here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=uJxLAAAAMAAJ
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
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Caution: sidetrack
Amazing it is that you have written such a program! It is exhausting to do it page after page.
Amazing it is that you have written such a program! It is exhausting to do it page after page.
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Speaking to other developers, I would have called it a script. It was very simple: wget wrapped in a bash for-loop. In general, I don't have the patience for doing things the slow way.
Also a useful temperament for Greek learning.
Also a useful temperament for Greek learning.
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Corrections are welcome (especially for projects).
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Meae editiones librorum. Αἱ ἐμαὶ ἐκδόσεις βίβλων.
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One of the virtues of a great programmer, they say, is Laziness.jeidsath wrote:I don't have the patience for doing things the slow way.
Thank you so much for sharing!
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Hi, I like the text a lot, but the only copy I found in the internet is missing pages 7-19.
Unfortunately, I can't access the Google books link (geo-blocking, I guess).
Could someone please put a copy in some cloud drive (or similar)? Thank a lot in advance!
Unfortunately, I can't access the Google books link (geo-blocking, I guess).
Could someone please put a copy in some cloud drive (or similar)? Thank a lot in advance!
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Hi Thrasystomos, I upload it to the Google Drive of our project, here:Thrasystomos wrote:Hi, I like the text a lot, but the only copy I found in the internet is missing pages 7-19.
Unfortunately, I can't access the Google books link (geo-blocking, I guess).
Could someone please put a copy in some cloud drive (or similar)? Thank a lot in advance!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11hWeJ ... d7FHbj91A4
One of our tasks is to recover this book. Can you access this now?
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What a coincidence, this book is currently being transcribed by the Distributed Proofreaders/Canada
https://www.pgdpcanada.net/c/project.ph ... p180711008
https://www.pgdpcanada.net/c/project.ph ... p180711008
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it's now with Gutenberg:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/57629
If you find a typo left, you can post it here.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/57629
If you find a typo left, you can post it here.
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That's amazing. It's exciting to see this digitized.
I scanned through it quickly and didn't catch any errors.
I scanned through it quickly and didn't catch any errors.
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
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Its funny, the very first character of the document seems to be a mistake.
ΠΡΟΜ. Δῦσόν με, ὦ Ζεῦ· δεινὰ γὰρ ἤδη πέπονθα.
I assume it should be "Λῦσόν" not "Δῦσόν"
ΠΡΟΜ. Δῦσόν με, ὦ Ζεῦ· δεινὰ γὰρ ἤδη πέπονθα.
I assume it should be "Λῦσόν" not "Δῦσόν"
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Good catch. Your eyes are better than mine.
Also, this editorial note about a typo is incorrect: "γόης, ὦ Διόγενες, ἅνθρωπος [typo: should be ἄνθ..], καὶ τεχνίτης."
On the other hand, there should be a typo note here:
Οὔκ· ἀλλὰ ἴστε, οἶμαι, ὦ Ἰφιάνασσα, τὸν Περσέα, τὸ τῆς Δανάης παιδίον, ὃ μετὰ τῆς μητρὸς ἐν τῇ κιβωτῷ ἐμβληθὲν ἐς τὴν θάλατταν ὑπὸ τοῦ μητροπάτορος ἐσώσατε, οἰκτίραντα αὐτούς
See this thread.
Also, this editorial note about a typo is incorrect: "γόης, ὦ Διόγενες, ἅνθρωπος [typo: should be ἄνθ..], καὶ τεχνίτης."
On the other hand, there should be a typo note here:
Οὔκ· ἀλλὰ ἴστε, οἶμαι, ὦ Ἰφιάνασσα, τὸν Περσέα, τὸ τῆς Δανάης παιδίον, ὃ μετὰ τῆς μητρὸς ἐν τῇ κιβωτῷ ἐμβληθὲν ἐς τὴν θάλατταν ὑπὸ τοῦ μητροπάτορος ἐσώσατε, οἰκτίραντα αὐτούς
See this thread.
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thanks a lot for you comment, I will update it shortly.