D'Ooge Ex 39

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by bingley » Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:48 am

To jagorev:<br /><br />I think Mariek's answer is better. Latin does not have the difference between the present continuous (are killing) and the present simple (kill) that English does, so they would both end up here as necant.<br /><br />----<br />To benissimus:<br /><br />Thanks. Extraneous messages deleted.<br /><br />Rogo quid feris terrarum magis placeat -- sagittis neci aut a sagitis neci.

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by mariek » Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:05 am

[quote author=jagorev link=board=3;threadid=239;start=0#1247 date=1057973815]<br />No. Sorry. The one about Diana I wrote: "Sagittae Dianae sunt feras terrae necant"<br />[/quote]<br />Oh, you just pointed out that "the land" is singular and I made it plural by using "terrarum". Oops. I'm not sure about using "sunt" because so far my examples haven't used it yet. I'm not that far into the book, maybe they'll cover it later.<br /><br />#8. Diana's arrows are killing the wild beasts of the land.<br /><br />My 3rd revision is : Sagittae Dianae feras terrae necant.<br />

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by mariek » Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:12 am

[quote author=bingley link=board=3;threadid=239;start=0#1253 date=1057978096]<br />Rogo quid feris terrarum magis placeat -- sagittis neci aut a sagitis neci. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think you're asking which is better, death by arrow or death at the hands of a witch. I guess the answer would depend on what the witch intends to do... ;)<br /><br />

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by benissimus » Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:26 am

I think it means "I ask what pleases the beasts of the lands more -- to be killed by arrows or to be killed by witches."<br /><br />neci=necari?
flebile nescio quid queritur lyra, flebile lingua murmurat exanimis, respondent flebile ripae

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by bingley » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:40 am

That's what it was supposed to mean, yes. And yes, it should have been necari :-\ twice :-[:-[

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by Episcopus » Sat Jul 12, 2003 7:59 pm

Would there be any difference in pronunciation <br /><br />sagitta<br />sagita?<br /><br />nam mea mater est sagita mihi
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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by mariek » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:37 pm

[quote author=Episcopus link=board=3;threadid=239;start=15#1269 date=1058039981]<br />Would there be any difference in pronunciation <br /><br />sagitta<br />sagita?<br />[/quote]<br />I was wondering the same thing. My guess is that the middle syllable is pronounced differently. sah-giht-ta vs sah-gye-ta. ???<br />

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by benissimus » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:29 am

Every letter is pronounced. You must be extremly precise when you say a word. Sa-gi-ta is slightly different from Sa-git-ta.
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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by mariek » Sun Jul 13, 2003 7:02 am

Seems like a talking dictionary would be helpful, but I suppose that such an animal doesn't exist? I used to have an English dictionary CDROM that included audio files that pronounced the word in either an American accent or a British accent.

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Re:D'Ooge Ex 39

Post by ingrid70 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:01 pm

You need a pronunciation guide if you are learning English (I know, I'm Dutch :). Latin is (as far as we know I suppose, as there are no native speakers left) more straightforward in its pronunciation. There's a guide at the beginning of D'Ooge's book, that sums it all up. For most letters, it's one letter = one sound. Try that in English.<br /><br />Do try to remember the long vowels when you learn the vocab. When I first learned Latin, I didn't (they weren't marked in our book); by now I've found out that I put the stress wrong in about a third of the words :(. <br /><br />Vale,<br />Ingrid<br /><br /><br />
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