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re: confirm translation (interrogative)

Post by caeruleus » Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:11 pm

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Rather than typing the whole story, or briefly stating the context, here is the line for translation:

Line: Quid clamant nymphae?

Translation(?): What did the nymphs praise?

In general, I have not had a problem understanding interrogatives in Latin. This one however I am not sure of.

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Post by phil » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:56 pm

You have got quid, meaning 'What?' correct.
The translation is therefore 'What are the nymphs shouting?'
(clamo, -are is to shout, and the tense is in the present)

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Post by benissimus » Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:35 pm

Quid can also mean "why" but without context it is impossible to tell.
flebile nescio quid queritur lyra, flebile lingua murmurat exanimis, respondent flebile ripae

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Post by phil » Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:48 pm

benissimus wrote:Quid can also mean "why" but without context it is impossible to tell.
'Quid' can mean why? How so?

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Post by benissimus » Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:54 am

According to A&G http://www.textkit.com/files/AG_New_Lat ... f#page=137 under "Derivation of Adverbs":
The neuter accusative of adjectives and pronouns is often used as an adverb : as, multum, much ; facile, easily ; quid, why.
There's not really much to explain about it... it just means "why" as far as I know :wink:

Paul, if you turn to page 322 in your Wheelock book to the Locus Immutatus "Death of a Puppy", at footnote 14 there is a sentence Quid tristis es? meaning "Why are you sad?" (not "What are you sad?").
flebile nescio quid queritur lyra, flebile lingua murmurat exanimis, respondent flebile ripae

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Post by Keesa » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:20 am

benissimus wrote:
meaning "Why are you sad?" (not "What are you sad?").
That makes sense. :wink:
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Post by phil » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:26 am

gratias tibi ago - sed quid me nominas 'Paulus'? ;)

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Post by Lucus Eques » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:57 am

phil wrote:gratias tibi ago - sed quid me nominas 'Paulus'? ;)
Quod te diligit. :D
Et video, Philippus, etiam amicus equorum es, idem ac me.
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Post by phil » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:27 am

:D

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Post by benissimus » Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:05 am

phil wrote:gratias tibi ago - sed quid me nominas 'Paulus'? ;)
Phil, Paul... what's the difference? :P
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Post by Lucus Eques » Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:13 am

benissimus wrote:Phil, Paul... what's the difference? :P
Hic est:

Paul

et Phil aut Philip

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Post by Keesa » Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:51 am

I would emphatically second that recommendation. Behind the Name is one of my favorite websites! (When I learn how to say that in Latin, I'll let you know. :P ) They don't have my name, though. :)
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Post by Lucus Eques » Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:33 am

I would emphatically second that recommendation. Behind the Name is one of my favorite websites! (When I learn how to say that in Latin, I'll let you know. )
Well, I've nothing better to do; lemme give it a try.

Ego illi commendationi graviter adsum. Pone Nominem unus mei websitorum favoritorum est!

Hm, though that's without conditional. I'll have to look that one up...
They don't have my name, though
I think you can e-mail the webmaster to add new names.
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Post by Keesa » Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:14 pm

You can. But I like being unique. :D
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Post by Emma_85 » Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:36 pm

Try not to write really good novels then. People might name their kids after the author of that really great book they read... :wink:
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Post by Keesa » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:26 pm

Sure, but by the time my novels are famous, I'll be dead. Think of the Impressionists. :wink:
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