trouble finding digital images of two codices in Greek (philos. gr. 202, Wien; I R 14 Escorial)

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trouble finding digital images of two codices in Greek (philos. gr. 202, Wien; I R 14 Escorial)

Post by gesdol » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:27 pm

Hi. I can't seem to find these two codices online (written in about 15th century, from much older sources, in Greek):

1)
Cod. philos. gr. 202 from Vienna (Wien), Austria
I don't see it in the list of codices at Österreichische Nationalbibliothek (ÖNB) Wien, http://manuscripta.at/lib_digi.php?libcode=AT8500 where I think it is supposed to be, if I'm correct.

2)
I. R. 14 (spelled also "I R 14", "I.R.14" or "I - R - 14" in different catalogi)
from Escorial, Spain
(in one catalogue in parenthesis it says "erat ("it was") III. Δ. 5 ; IV. I. 1" but that's helped nothing)

They contain few same fragments I'm interested in. For Escorial' one, two sources even give different folio number for this, so I'd have to

I'm interested in both transcription as well as digital images. Even more the images. I found the other codices I looked for, but not these two.

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Re: trouble finding digital images of two codices in Greek (philos. gr. 202, Wien; I R 14 Escorial)

Post by jeidsath » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:53 pm

The first is "Prolegomena in Aelium Aristidem". I don't know if there is an online version. Here is the catalogue record:

http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC14451964

Does your reference for #2 have anything to do with this "Catalogue des manuscrits grecs de la bibliothèque de l'Escurial"? https://archive.org/details/cataloguedesman00biblgoog

That has a R. I. 14 on page 5:

https://archive.org/details/cataloguede ... g/page/n45
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Re: trouble finding digital images of two codices in Greek (philos. gr. 202, Wien; I R 14 Escorial)

Post by gesdol » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:05 pm

#1 "Cod. Phil. gr. 202". (Vien)
jeidsath wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:53 pm
The first is "Prolegomena in Aelium Aristidem". I don't know if there is an online version. Here is the catalogue record:

http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC14451964
It is just one of over hundred texts (or dozens longer comiplation-texts that each quote different texts in each paragraph) from "Cod. Phil. gr. 202".
I'm looking for Σαραπίωνος Ἀλεξανδρέως εἰσαγωγὴ ἐπισκοπὶς περὶ οἰκοδεσπότου καὶ περὶ ὑψωμάτων supposedly on folio 203r-203v - says https://archive.org/details/CatalogusCo ... 6/page/n63 on page 47 (middle of the page 24, first text right by "F. 203", followed by following text, weirdly still under section "folio 203" even though it clearly says that start or end on other folios further on, logically, but go figure)

You were actually able to find anything from this codex on this website. For me, this search engine somehow fails to give results... It's slow-crushes and I'm not good at German to make search adjustments.

#2 R. I 14. (Escorial)
jeidsath wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:53 pm
Does your reference for #2 have anything to do with this "Catalogue des manuscrits grecs de la bibliothèque de l'Escurial"? https://archive.org/details/cataloguedesman00biblgoog

That has a R. I. 14 on page 5:

https://archive.org/details/cataloguede ... g/page/n45
Yes, I believe so. Found that one too. But this codex has over 200 texts, and this catalogue only mentions the headings of the two. Fol. 178 Εἰσαγωγὴ ἐπισκοπικὴ περὶ οἰκοδεσπότείας par Sérapion d'Alexandrie is what I'm looking for.
Though Catalogus codicum astrologorum graecorum vol. 11 pars 1 (this. vol. is not in Archive.org) says this is supposed to be on folio 195r (next text according to it is on 195v) as Σαραπίωνος Ἀλεξανδρου (sic) εἰσαγωγὴ ἐπισκοπικὴ περὶ οἰκοδεσπότου καὶ περὶ ὑψωμάτων
These catalogues only give the title of sections/chapters/texts at best (that is if they bother to list all of the texts/sections in a codice, not just arbitrary few).

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