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Americans Kill Zarqawi; Democrats "troubled"

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Thursday, June 8, 2006
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Washington, D.C. - Upon learning of the death by American airstrike of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Democratic minority leaders today issued a joint statement of concern. "We are, of course, troubled whenever American forces kill anybody. But Zarqawi was special. He and his freedom fighters wore so ghastly a face of death that he helped make the war and President Bush very unpopular with the American people. Now that he's gone, there is the grave danger that Americans might begin to feel that we are making some progress in Iraq."

Reached in Hell, Zarqawi would say only that Allah now seemed to him "less Ou Akhbar."

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LOL; now that is funny.

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That is funny. However, in trying to discover whether these are the same Democrats who voted for the war, I could not find this statement anywhere else on the internet. Could you direct me to the source of this quotation?

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Uh... I don't think that joint statement is true at all, just a prank someone is playing. Why would the Democrats call Al-Zarkawi a "freedom fighter"?

All those in favour of impeachment say 'Aye'. :lol:
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And my understanding is that the Zarqawi quote from Hell was really taken out of context.
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A two-bit, one-legged thug, who couldn't even fire his own weapon.

"WOW!" :roll:

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PeterD wrote:A two-bit, one-legged thug, who couldn't even fire his own weapon.

"WOW!" :roll:

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What you are saying is "no big deal"?

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Bert wrote:What you are saying is "no big deal"?
Unfortunately, yes.

On a brighter note for the U.S. Army (as it seeks to replenish its occupation forces in Iraq)... RECRUITMENT IS UP! :)

Why?

Because there's truth in the saying, "There's a sucker born every minute."

Have a nice weekend, Bert.

p.s. Pressure tactics or not, Canada had no business sending soldiers to Afghanistan to help clean up America's mess. The Ameicans should have pressured the Israelis, instead, to send in their soldiers. And why not... The IDF (that is the Israeli Defense Forces, not the International Diabetes Federation) are fully financed by the American taxpayer (unbeknownst, of course). Why shouldn't the hardworking American Joe get his money's worth? Besides, the Israelis know a thing or two about terror and occupation.
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Now that he's gone, there is the grave danger that Americans might begin to feel that we are making some progress in Iraq."
grave danger?!? God forbid we stand behind our troops. If we pull out now, it would make the sacrifices of our armed forces worthless, and I, for one, do not take the lives of my friends lightly. anything less than victory would be an insult to those, our own children, fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers, who died in this 'conflict'.

I, too, would like to know where this quote came from.

just because one chooses to serve their country doesn't make them a sucker, Peter. Don't belittle them.

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I have to agree with Amadeus. I thought it was an anti-Democrat joke.

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Deudeditus wrote:just because one chooses to serve their country doesn't make them a sucker, Peter. Don't belittle them.
Sometimes a verbal slap (ΠΡΟΦΟΡΙΚΗ ΦΑΠΑ, in Greek) on the back of the head from Common Sense is desperately needed.

You truly want to serve your country? Stay in school and better yourself. The smarter you are, the smarter your community and thus the better served is your country.

Military recruiters do not waste their time approaching rich and powerful kids, just the poor and weak. You ever wonder why?

Btw, a criminal military venture is morally worthless to begin with. By withdrawing U.S. troops, you not only support them by taking them out of harms way, the madness of death and destruction ceases.

Ironic, isn't it? It takes a Canadian provocateur to say something decent to American kids.

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Hardly, o notre agent provocateur Peter D (or should I call you Kylie?). The logic, in fact, which you have missed is provocatively clear: to withdraw our Coalition forces might spare their lives — which would break the promise made to the Iraqi people and Iraqi government, mind you — however, it would immediately cause the massacre of thousands of Iraqis, not yet well equipped to handle the terrorist insurgency on their own. Not only that, without our unflinching support, the free Iraqi people might find themselves conquered by the Baathists once again who had terrorized them for decades, or worse: a theocracy of the most dire proportions. The death, the inhumanity, the torture which had exsisted before would return. Though it seems to me you do not care about the Iraqi people at all, and only a narrow political view.

As for your repugnance of military recruiters, your condescension is astounding. First of all, "rich and powerful" kids go to colleges, where military recruiters and ROTC programs are abundant. Moreover, you seem to imply that the adults who volunteer their lives for their country are no more than weak, ignorant children. Your contempt is difficult to comprehend. Very many of these men and women may indeed be in positions of lesser wealth or less profound educational backgrounds; and so, they choose a most wonderful option: to protect our land, and thus to make a strong, even life-long career for themselves, and even get an education and go to college after all — a lot better than waiting tables for ever. But I have heard too often that the men and women who choose a military career are 'stupid,' that they weren't smart enough to get into college and so they go into the army or the navy only because they're too dumb, too weak, too innocent and helpless to understand that they're about to 'throw their lives away.' This idea is so condescending it infuriates me. No man or woman who joins the military is ignorant of the consequences of signing his or her name; they know that they are potentially dead, and for a most noble cause: every one of our volunteers goes in knowing exactly what might happen. And every human being understands the meaning of death, injury, and hardship. These insinuations otherwise are despicable.
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Lucus Eques wrote:Hardly, o notre agent provocateur Peter D (or should I call you Kylie?).
Dude, is that a softporn site you just directed me to? Thanks to you, I had a lot of explaining to do when my wife caught me browsing thru the images. :o And who the heck is Kylie?

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PeterD wrote:
Lucus Eques wrote:Hardly, o notre agent provocateur Peter D (or should I call you Kylie?).
Dude, is that a softporn site you just directed me to? Thanks to you, I had a lot of explaining to do when my wife caught me browsing thru the images. :o And who the heck is Kylie?
*slaps forehead!* Would someone please explain the joke to him so he can realize it was at his own expense? Παύλε;
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Lucus Eques wrote:The logic, in fact, which you have missed is provocatively clear: to withdraw our Coalition forces might spare their lives — which would break the promise made to the Iraqi people and Iraqi government, mind you — however, it would immediately cause the massacre of thousands of Iraqis, not yet well equipped to handle the terrorist insurgency on their own. Not only that, without our unflinching support, the free Iraqi people might find themselves conquered by the Baathists once again who had terrorized them for decades, or worse: a theocracy of the most dire proportions. The death, the inhumanity, the torture which had exsisted before would return. Though it seems to me you do not care about the Iraqi people at all, and only a narrow political view.
That's right, Americans now have to clean their own mess. They wanted to go in, let them stay there; maybe now a valuable lesson will be learned. :x
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Peter, it was Kylie Minogue (famous singer), and the joke had to do with your calling yourself 'provocateur' (agent provocateur is a brand of lingerie). It was his way of belittling the terminology you yourself used (though not, I assume, belittling you cuz that's not his style).

I like annis and Switzerland remain staunchly neutral (and silent) in these debates, though I do have my own opinions about the whole thing. However I feel that these boards are not the place for them to be expressed (though I don't in any way claim others should not express them on the open board or in the academy).

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My friend joined the Navy and he is currently working in the nuclear program. His brother, requiescat, was a medical officer. Another friend of mine is an aerospace engineer. Two more are in intelligence. You know, Peter, you might be right about their lack of intillegence. None of them are poor, just patriotic. I'm not poor, either, and, though I'm no Hawkings, I don't consider myself to be of low intelligence, either. I also went to college before I joined.
That's right, Americans now have to clean their own mess.
exactly!! I guess if we alone have the courage to do what's right, we have to finish it alone, as well.

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Let's give it a rest. What do you guys say?
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Deudeditus wrote:exactly!! I guess if we alone have the courage to do what's right, we have to finish it alone, as well.

-Jon
I recognize this is a very delicate subject, so I won't say anything further, except that, no, that war was not justified, it was waged for other sinister motives. And I do not hate Americans, but I wish they'd drop that we-know-best-50's attitude. :cry:
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PeterD wrote:Let's give it a rest. What do you guys say?
Agreed :)

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También yo estoy de acuerdo. 8)
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