Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

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hlawson38
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Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

Post by hlawson38 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 pm

In the letter to More that serves as introduction, Erasmus is justifying the propriety of ridiculing the vices of the human race in general.
Praeterea qui nullum hominum genus pretermittit, is nulli homini, uiciis omnibus iratus uidetur.
Translation: Besides the one [i.e. the satirist] who targets the general kind of men, displays anger at no [ particular ] man, [but] at the vices of all [men].

I really needed a "but" or "instead", which was not there. Is this dative expression nulli homini, viciis omnibus, frequently seen, when the intended meaning is "not-this-one-but-all"?

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Re: Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

Post by anphph » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:44 pm

I really needed a "but" or "instead", which was not there. Is this dative expression nulli homini, viciis omnibus, frequently seen, when the intended meaning is "not-this-one-but-all"?
Yes. It's an implied adversative, made even clearer by the chiastic structure of "nulli [x], [x] omnibus."

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Re: Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

Post by mwh » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:27 pm

Note the anaphoric nullum … nulli too, and the contrastive chiasmus of homini, viciis. While there’s no kind of persons he spares, it’s no person but all vices that his anger seems directed at.

Erasmus is well versed in the effective use of rhetorical figures. They'll have come as second nature to him.

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Re: Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

Post by hlawson38 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 pm

"implied adversative": I must add that to the list of things to look out for.

Many thanks, mwh.
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Re: Erasmus, Praise of Folly, query 2

Post by Timothée » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:32 pm

As Erasmus is a Renaissance scholar, I thought these threads would work quite nicely on the Neo-Latin forum.

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