who was the author of the dinner party talk?

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who was the author of the dinner party talk?

Post by daivid » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:01 pm

There is a text that purports to be a talk at a dinner party in which the author flits from topic to topic displaying how well read and erudite he is. It dates from era of the Roman conquest.

It is a source for estimates on the number of slaves owned by Ancient Greeks - a source that needs to be used with caution as the author is likely cherry picking his references to prove his point.

But who was that author?

I can't for the life of me remember. :(
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Re: who was the author of the dinner party talk?

Post by Cathexis » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:18 pm

All 7 volumes of, "The Learned Banqueters" are available on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss ... Aathenaeus

This link even shows a Delphi Classics vers. of Complete Athenaeus in Kindle for $2.51!
Supposedly Greek/English and illustrated too! But I haven't tried them, though maybe now
I will. They seem to have lots of titles.

Hope this helps,

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Post by Aetos » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:23 pm

I have a couple of the Delphi Series pubs. Basically, they present the English versions of the collected works of the author, then the collection of Greek texts. No commentary, no critical apparatus.

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Post by daivid » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 pm

Thanks, it was indeed the Deipnosophistae that I was trying to recall.

Much appreciated.
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Post by Cathexis » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:28 pm

@Aetos,

You are correct about the lack of commentary or analysis. On a lark I gave up $1.99 to find out.
A copy of, "Complete Works of Sappho(Translated)" was sent to my Kindle. It presents all 117
texts I know of in a legible Greek verse followed by a English prose translation. It claims it's
bookmark-able and all 117 entries were hyperlinked on the contents page. I went straight to
Frag. 31 and found the translation a bit meh! but otherwise ok. IMHO the real value in, tablets
as book substitutes, is portability and ease of access. I hold no great devotion to them but they
have their uses such as when I'm travelling or otherwise away from my bookshelves.

Most Loebs I'm aware of have a Preface/Introduction and perhaps footnotes. Loeb's "The Learned
Banqueters" is a seven volume set (7 x $26 = $182US versus $2.51 for Kindle Ed). It could be argued
you're better off cost-wise to buy the Kindle version and then spend your coin on the commentaries.
But then, I like books as much as anybody else. :D

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Post by Aetos » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:16 am

Hi Andrew
That's basically why I sprang for the Xenophon collection-the price and the portability. I was usually away from home 4 days a week, every week, so I liked to carry my library with me. This is way off topic, but another thing I did was use Microsoft OneDrive to connect to my home PC and download the books I wanted from my hard drive at home to my laptop or my iPad/iPhone. Having retired I no longer really need the portability, but I like to have a read at bedtime and iPad is perfect for that.

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Re: who was the author of the dinner party talk?

Post by jeidsath » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:34 am

I discovered the University of Oxford podcast lectures today. Here is S. Douglas Olson on Athenaeus' quotations of fragmentary prose authors:

https://podcasts.ox.ac.uk/fragmentary-p ... -naucratis
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Post by Cathexis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:51 pm

@Joel - Excellent, another bookmark to go through. Thank you! I have a paid copy of iSkysoft iMedia
Converter Deluxe that let's me grab any podcast or You-Tube type of file and convert for my own use.
I prefer working through media material that way as opposed to just staring at the PC. I don't distribute
and consider my private viewing a "Fair Use" of the material.

@Aetos - You read my mind! I do much the same thing, like when someone links to a .pdf that
interests me, I download it to my desktop and then drag & drop into my Kindle. I have done the
same for my Android but the tablet is much more eye-friendly in the bed for my money.
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