What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

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What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Zionswasd » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi there, I've been looking to make up a singular Latin word to mean a pan-causal-temporal loop since I'm pretty sure that's not something they have a word for already in Latin, even though I found separate words for causal, temporal and loop. Any tips on the word parts that I should use to construct the word (assuming it isn't just combining the three words into one)? :?

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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by cb » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:16 pm

Hi, maybe use the Stoic word for the endless cycle of the universe, with (roughly, using your words) "all causes" repeating over and over in a "temporal loop" (it's Greek though): παλιγγενεσία.

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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by seneca2008 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:40 pm

I think you first need to work out what if anything this means in English.

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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Zionswasd » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:10 am

Here I can clear it up for you, it means a causal or temporal loop in all worldlines, as opposed to just one worldline.

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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Zionswasd wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:10 am
Here I can clear it up for you, it means a causal or temporal loop in all worldlines, as opposed to just one worldline.
Somehow I don't think that will really answer Seneca's question :lol:
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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by jeidsath » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:52 pm

Some people don't read enough comic books, I see.
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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by jeidsath » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:28 pm

In Greek, I would say something like ὃ ἐν πᾶσι κόσμοις ἑαυτὸ κινεῖ to refer to a self-caused event in every world, which sounds Aristotelian and makes more sense than the original English. Someone else can change that to Latin, since mine isn't good enough.
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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm

jeidsath wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:28 pm
In Greek, I would say something like ὃ ἐν πᾶσι κόσμοις ἑαυτὸ κινεῖ to refer to a self-caused event in every world, which sounds Aristotelian and makes more sense than the original English. Someone else can change that to Latin, since mine isn't good enough.
A fun exercise is to take a translation of a classical author and retrovert it without looking at the original. If you are reasonably competent in the language, you are rarely technically incorrect, but often the original is quite different from your retroversion. I say that to illustrate the "danger" of this sort of thing. What an ancient native speaker might come up with if he understood the concepts and what we render might have been very different. A literal translation of Joel's Greek:

Quod in mundis omnibus se movet.
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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Zionswasd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:24 pm

I'm only a beginner in Latin or I could glean more from my google searching, but I should say I'm looking to make up a word or two out of the right word parts to mean that whole phrase, as opposed to translating the whole phrase, even if said word was never historically used. (And btw I'm sorry for being weird :lol:)

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Re: What Latin words could I use or make up to mean "pan-causal temporal loop"

Post by Zionswasd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:27 pm

Barry Hofstetter wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm
jeidsath wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:28 pm
In Greek, I would say something like ὃ ἐν πᾶσι κόσμοις ἑαυτὸ κινεῖ to refer to a self-caused event in every world, which sounds Aristotelian and makes more sense than the original English. Someone else can change that to Latin, since mine isn't good enough.
A fun exercise is to take a translation of a classical author and retrovert it without looking at the original. If you are reasonably competent in the language, you are rarely technically incorrect, but often the original is quite different from your retroversion. I say that to illustrate the "danger" of this sort of thing. What an ancient native speaker might come up with if he understood the concepts and what we render might have been very different. A literal translation of Joel's Greek:

Quod in mundis omnibus se movet.
Thank you! I think that's what I'm going for, I just need to find a way to combine them into a Frankenstein's monster hapax legomena!

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