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sine, quaeso, inspiciam

Post by Jim Bryan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:14 am

sine, quaeso, inspiciam (Dialog 01 Otto et Petrus) ( Otto cultellum amisit et rogat Petrum ut liceat eius cultello uti.) source?

From the context this must mean something like
"But may I please inspect it?"

But I can't find "sine" in the dictionary. Maybe sin + ne?

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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

Post by mwh » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:50 pm

sine imperative, with subjunctive inspiciam, “let me look”. quaeso independent, “I beg (you).”

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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

Post by hlawson38 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:55 pm

I find William Whitaker's Words program helpful when I don't know the correct headword (dictionary lookup word). An online version of Words is accessible here:

https://latin.ucant.org/

For your word, here is the output, which shows that there is still some work needed to pick out the proper dictionary word.

sin.e N 2 1 VOC S M
sinus, sini N (2nd) M [XXXAX]
bowl for serving wine, etc;
sin.e V 3 1 PRES ACTIVE IMP 2 S
sino, sinere, sivi, situs V (3rd) [XXXAX]
allow, permit;
sine PREP ABL
sine PREP ABL [XXXAX]
without; (sometimes after object); lack; [Johannis sine Terra => John Lackland]

The Perseus Latin Word Study Tool does this work also: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?la=la

An Android app for Words that works offline is available on Google Play. AFAIK the iphone app works online-only. Both are free. A google search will probably let you find downloadable computer forms of William Whitaker's Words.
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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:09 pm

There is also no substitute for having your paradigms memorized...
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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

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Re: sine, quaeso, inspiciam

Post by Jim Bryan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:44 am

Thanks friends. Once you have your mind made up...si ne....
And if you have the SPQR app, The Parser is Whitiker's words.
"Let me look, please" makes so much sense. sino isn't in my working vocabulary YET :-)

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