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a motto/ warning

Post by franciscus » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:47 pm

Y'all, I'm trying to translate the ff. statement:

"If you speak ill of another person, I will tell him all about it. The truth will set us free."

Here's my try:

"Sic diceris vituperatione ad hominen, dicero ad eum. Veritas nos liberavit."

Good enough? Pls advise. Gratia vobis.

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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by Qimmik » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:05 pm

[Si] cui maledixeris perferam.

Si is not necessary here. ("Anyone who . . . ") Without si it's pithier.

maledixeris - future perfect

perferam - future; object ei is understood.

Maledico takes a dative complement in classical Latin; accusative later.

http://perseus.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/phi ... isandshort

Veritas nos liberabit is ok.
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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by adrianus » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:12 pm

Sic = thus; si = if
Liberavit = it set free / it has set free; liberabit = it will set free.
Dicero / diceris ?
dicam = I will say
de re vel ad rem = about a thing
omnia = everything (all things)
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by bedwere » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:24 pm

If I may add:

ad hominem

A minor point: to my ear, Veritas liberabit nos sounds better, as in John 8:32 in the Vulgate.

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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by franciscus » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:27 pm

Gratia vobis omnes!

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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by Gregarius » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:34 pm

Often, you see these great truisms such as "The truth will set us free" in English using the future tense. I wonder if we English speakers often play fast and loose with our tenses. "The truth will set us free" (but not yet? someday soon?) Is it more idiomatic Latin to use the present tense for these? "The truth (always) sets us free"?

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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by adrianus » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:04 pm

It's a quote // dictum bibliae vulgatae:
Novum Testamentum, Joannis in evangelio wrote:8:31/8:32 dicebat ergo Iesus ad eos qui crediderunt ei Iudaeos si vos manseritis in sermone meo vere discipuli mei eritis et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos
Post scriptum. Me excusas, Bedwere. Id jam suprà dixisti, quod non animadverti. Ut dicit Bedwere.
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Re: a motto/ warning

Post by bedwere » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:14 pm

adrianus wrote:
Post scriptum. Me excusas, Bedwere. Id jam suprà dixisti, quod non animadverti. Ut dicit Bedwere.
Nihil quidem excusandum, optime Adriane!

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