Vocative of -eus adjectives and nouns

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Vocative of -eus adjectives and nouns

Post by Lucus Eques » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:26 pm

Saluete! I've encountered a bit of a conundrum; I cannot remember if there be a rule for the vocative for masculine adjectives or nouns ending in '-eus', for example "aureus" or "capt?neus." I feel like I read somewhere that "auree" would not be preferred, and "aurī" instead would occur, like "mī," yet I haven't been able to confirm this. Does anyone recall?
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Post by Lucan » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:23 pm

I have not heard of a rule regarding nouns ending in -eus, but that is not to say there is not one. Masculine nouns ending in -ius (e.g. fīlius) do however lengthen the final i in the vocative rather than ending in -e (e.g. fīlī, not fīlie). Perhaps this is the rule you are thinking of?

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Post by Lucus Eques » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:31 pm

Naturally that rule I know well; I've not encountered, however, any vocative '-eus' form that I can think of, and so I wondered.
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Re: Vocative of -eus adjectives and nouns

Post by Amadeus » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:48 pm


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Post by Hu » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:14 am

I believe the -ius rule also applies to -eus nouns. At least that's how I learned it in high school: -us is replaced with -e and -ius/-eus is replaced with -i.

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Post by Deudeditus » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:06 pm

As far as I know, there is no special vocative form for -eus.
that's the approach I've been taking. I think we've already had this convo, maybe there's something useful in the previous thread. it's back there somewhere, I think Amadeus was asking about the voc of his username or something... hmm.

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Post by Amadeus » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:31 pm

Ok, this is what an old Spanish textbook says:
Se ignora cuál haya sido el vocativo singular de deus. En el estilo eclesiástico se usa el vocativo Deus. Translation: It is not known what the vocative of deus was. In the ecclesiastical style, the vocative Deus is used.
But then, in another section called "Declinación de los sustantivos griegos", we read:
Los nombres proprios, que en griego terminan en eús, gen. en éos, y pertenecen en dicho idioma a la tercera declinación, en latín siguen la segunda.

Ej.: Prométheus, gen. Prométhei ....

Sin embargo, el vocativo es en -eu, comoen griego: Prométheu....
And this is all well and good, but the names Amadeus and aureus are not greek. So, yes, quite a conundrum.

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Post by Lucus Eques » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:19 pm

I've answered my own question:

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:iB ... ent=safari

Both '-ius' and '-eus' become Ä«.
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Post by Michaelyus » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:21 pm

Aurī (i), but Orpheū (u because Orepheus is Greek).

Source for former rule: Google cache.
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Post by Michaelyus » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:22 pm

That's never happened to me before. Oh well - yes that's right.
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Post by Lucus Eques » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:43 pm

Wow, what a unified vibe there. Woot.
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