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feminae pulchram, correct syntax?

Post by NelsonN » Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:03 pm

I just started reading D'Ooge's Latin For Beginners and I am now on part 2.

After going thru the singular and plural section I am left to conclude that, this is a correct Latin sentence?

"feminae pulchram" meaning "women are beautiful"

I am just asking, premature as it will seem to most, is if I am headed in the right direction?

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Re: feminae pulchram, correct syntax?

Post by solitario » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:19 pm

NelsonN wrote:"feminae pulchram" meaning "women are beautiful"
Salve!

I don't think "pulchram" should be in the accusative.
And you need a verb.
If that helps any...

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Post by phil » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:44 pm

pulchram should also be plural. Because the adjective is describing the noun feminae it must agree in gender, (which you got right), as well as case and number. Because feminae is plural nominative, then pulchram must also be plural and nominative.

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Post by NelsonN » Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:03 pm

phil wrote:pulchram should also be plural. Because the adjective is describing the noun feminae it must agree in gender, (which you got right), as well as case and number. Because feminae is plural nominative, then pulchram must also be plural and nominative.
So, I got it right? :shock:

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Post by solitario » Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:22 pm

NelsonN wrote:So, I got it right? :shock:
Still confused, ay?

Look at the Spanish: "Las mujeres son hermosas."

See how the adjective "hermosa" is in the plural. You need to do this with pulchra.

Also, you need the Latin equivalent of "son." Which is the 3rd Person Plural form of the verb esse. (Usually listed in Latin dictionaries under "sum".)

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Post by NelsonN » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:32 am

pulchrae?

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Post by benissimus » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:46 am

feminae pulchrae is correct, but it means "beautiful women". In some circumstances you could leave the verb out, but typically you would say Feminae sunt pulchrae "Women are beautiful". Don't worry if you're just getting started, you will be able to write sentences in a short time.
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Post by NelsonN » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:04 am

benissimus wrote:feminae pulchrae is correct, but it means "beautiful women". In some circumstances you could leave the verb out, but typically you would say Feminae sunt pulchrae "Women are beautiful". Don't worry if you're just getting started, you will be able to write sentences in a short time.
According to the book, I can leave the verb out.

Maybe I should approach Latin from my Spanish instead of my English?

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Post by Episcopus » Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:45 pm

Quiero hacer los opispos que son a la playa porque tienen las hijas y somos toros :shock:

Can you tell I know no spanish? :wink:

Pulchrae feminae = The women are beautiful, because latin often omits parts of "esse" (ser/estar I think!). But still it's an extremely common verb! It must be learned. (Try from the spanish some forms differ very little: somos/sumus, son/ sunt, es/ est etc.)

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Post by NelsonN » Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:27 pm

Episcopus wrote:Quiero hacer los opispos que son a la playa porque tienen las hijas y somos toros :shock:

Can you tell I know no spanish? :wink:
I read you loud and clear. :)

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