Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

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Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by Ovidius » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:23 am

I recently read A.A's outstanding translation of "Treasure Island" ("Insula Thesauraria") and I personally consider him a genius. I also found out that he developed a technique to help the student achieve complete fluency in Latin. Whereas I am happy with "Lvo", I'd like to find out more about this man and his ideas. Can anyone help me? Do you own a copy of the book ("Palaestra") or can you at least tell me more about the method itself? Thank you.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by adrianus » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:01 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadius_Avellanus
Modus discendi eius viri ignoro. // I don't know about his method.
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by MatthaeusLatinus » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:55 pm

adrianus wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadius_Avellanus
Modus discendi eius viri ignoro. // I don't know about his method.
Nonne tibi vis 'modum'? Quod scio, modus substantivum secundae est declinationis.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by adrianus » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:09 pm

Palaestra
http://ia600406.us.archive.org/26/items ... 0mogygoog/
Interesting // curâ est.

Also // Etiam
Mysterium Arcae Boulé (The Mystery of the Boule Cabinet)
http://www.archive.org/details/mysteriu ... 00mogygoog

Also // Etiam
Insula Thesauraria
http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciculus ... raria.djvu

Also // Etiam
Pericla Navarchi Magonis
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... gonis.djvu

Also // Etiam
Fabulae Divales
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fabulae_Divales.djvu
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by thesaurus » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:08 pm

adrianus wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadius_Avellanus
Modus discendi eius viri ignoro. // I don't know about his method.
I wrote the Latin version of this article (of which the English is someone's translation), so if you have any feedback, let me know. http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadius_Avellanus
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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by adrianus » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:37 pm

Great, thesaure. I didn't know of him before. He's really interesting.
Bene factum est, thesaure. Ignotus mihi anteà hoc homo. Valdè attractivus.
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by adrianus » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:10 pm

MatthaeusLatinus wrote:
adrianus wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadius_Avellanus
Modus discendi eius viri ignoro. // I don't know about his method.
Nonne tibi vis 'modum'? Quod scio, modus substantivum secundae est declinationis.
Hoc modò animadverti. Rectè dicis, Matthaee.
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by Hampie » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:41 pm

What a very liney method… :O.
Här kan jag i alla fall skriva på svenska, eller hur?

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by adrianus » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:10 pm

Having looked quickly at it, I think the Palaestra method is very intuitive. He starts with a point and a line indeed, and coincidentally that how I begin my (unfinished) Mundus program, though less well,—well, right after showing what you might take out of a schoolbag. But this is to tie Latin in nicely with other things being taught in a school curriculum.

Opus innui et rationem Palaestrae libri prorsùs intuitivam habeo. Puncto lineâque incipit liber,—quo et meum programma ineditum Mundus nomine casu modo minùs perito incipit, illis rebus quas capsa discipuli continet monstratis. Quae ratio scito modo aliis disciplinis in ludis integrat.
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by Patruus » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:43 pm

adrianus wrote: Also // Etiam
Fabulae Divales
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fabulae_Divales.djvu
For a PDF of Fabulae Divales, if you have a US IP address, go to:
http://books.google.com/books?id=JfI_TJo2Z_YC
or, failing that:
http://www.lulu.com/product/file-downlo ... es/6044763

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Re: Arcadius Avellanus' "Tusculum/Palaestra"?

Post by Carolus Raeticus » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:41 am

Salvete!

I stumbled upon the work of Arcadius Avellanus (real name Árkád Mogyoróssy, see the la.Wikipedia article). I thought it might be useful to put together all information about freely available versions (and those not yet online):
  • His course:
  • His translations:
  • Other works:
    • Colloquiorum Scholasticorum Liber Secundus: an edition of the dialogues written by Corderius as adapted by Arcadius Avellanus (HTML).
    • Fabulae Tusculanae: unfortunately unavailable. Its sub-title: ad suppeditandam praeceptoribus studiosisque materiam latinum sermonem vivae vocis adminiculo docendi et discendi (1913, 16 pages according to the Library of Congress' Catalogue of copyright entries).
Please add to this list if you know of additional works or where to find the ones still lacking online versions.

Valete,

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