Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

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Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Bernd Strauss » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:23 am

The 9th edition of Liddell-Scott-Jones’ lexicon has two entries πάρειμι. See the link below, where both πάρειμι entries are given on the page. In the first entry, it is said that the word πάρειμι means “be present.” The definitions in the second πάρειμι entry are different.

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Are the two words given in the lexicon different but related to each other? Or does the lexicon split the same word into two different entries?

The second πάρειμι entry reads:

42422 πάρειμι
µ πάρειμι (εἶμι ibo), inf. –ιέναι (Dor. –ίμεν Berl.Sitzb.1927.170 (Cyrene)), used as fut. of παρέρχομαι, also in pres. sense, παρῄειν being used as impf.:—pass by, pass, παριών Od.4.527, 17.233; οἰκτίρας. . παρίτω IG12.976; παρήϊε Hdt.4.79; οἱ ἀεὶ παριόντες Pl.R.616a, etc.; go alongside, Th.4.47; march along the coast, of an army, Id.8.16, 22, 32, X.HG2.1.18 (cj.), 4.5.19.
2. c. acc. loci, pass by, Hdt.7.109; τὸν χῶρον Id.1.167; τὴν οἰκίαν And.1.146, Str.14.5.14; π. παρὰ τοὺς πατέρας (prob. for παρῆσαν) Hdt.3.14; παρ᾽ αὐτὴν τὴν Βαβυλῶνα π. X.Cyr.5.2.29.
II. pass by, overtake, surpass, ib.1.4.5.
III. pass on, esp. in the sense of entering, π. ἐς τὰ βασιλήϊα Hdt.3.84, cf. 72, 77, Pl.Phd.59e; ἔσω π. E.Hel.451; πάριτ᾽ ἐς θυμέλας, ἐπὶ δ᾽ ἀσφάκτοις μήλοισι δόμων μὴ πάριτ᾽ ἐς μυχόν Id.Ion228 (anap.); βίᾳ εἰς οἰκίαν παριέναι X.Cyr.1.2.2.
2. in discourse, pass on from one part of a subject to another, ἐντεῦθεν ἐς. . Ar.Nu.1075; ὅ παριὼν τῷ λόγῳ ἔτυχον εἰπών in passing, Pl.Lg.776d.
IV. come forward, X.An. 7.3.46; πάριτ᾽ ἐς τὸ πρόσθεν Ar.Ach.143; τὸ μάχιμον εἰς τὸν μέγιστον τῶν ἀγώνων τολμήσει παριέναι Pl.Lg.830c: metaph., ἐς πρώτους νεωστὶ παριών Hdt.7.143.
2. come forward to speak, Pl.Alc.1.106c; παρῄει οὐδείς D.18.170; παριὼν ἐπὶ τὸ βῆμα Aeschin.3.159; παρῇσαν ἐπὶ τὸ βῆμα (cj. Dobree for παρῆσαν) D.1.8; παρῇμεν (cj. Cobet for παρῆμεν) εἰς τὴν ἐκκλησίαν Aeschin.3.71; at Athens, οἱ παριόντες orators, And.2.1, D.13.14, etc.; πᾶσι τοῖς παριοῦσι λόγον διδόναι Id.2.31.
V. pass from man to man, τὸ σύνθημα παρῄει X.An.6.5.15.

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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:28 am

They are different roots that happen to look similar in the first person singular. They are not the same word.
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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Bernd Strauss » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:36 am

Barry Hofstetter wrote:They are different roots that happen to look similar in the first person singular. They are not the same word.
Is the word παρουσία related to the first word (which means "be present") or to the second word (which is closer to the meaning "come"), or to both?

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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:06 pm

Bernd Strauss wrote:
Is the word παρουσία related to the first word (which means "be present") or to the second word (which is closer to the meaning "come"), or to both?
The former.
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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by bedwere » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:26 pm

You can see it better from the present participle, which for πάρειμι 1 is παρών, παροῦσα, παρόν, while for πάρειμι 2 is παριών, παριοῦσα, παριόν. Obviously, παρουσία must derive from the former.

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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by opoudjis » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:29 am

To make it more explicit: one πάρειμι is παρά + εἰμί "to be", and the other is παρά + εἶμι "to go". Which is why the very start of the second definition says "(εἶμι ibo)", ibo being Latin for "go".

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Post by Bernd Strauss » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:40 am

Thank you for the explanation. I was not aware that there are other words εἶμι and πάρειμι which are defined as “go” and “pass by.” What would be the noun forms of these words εἶμι and πάρειμι? Are they ουσία and παρουσία?

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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:38 pm

opoudjis wrote:To make it more explicit: one πάρειμι is παρά + εἰμί "to be", and the other is παρά + εἶμι "to go". Which is why the very start of the second definition says "(εἶμι ibo)", ibo being Latin for "go".
A future form, actually, "I shall go."
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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:49 pm

Bernd Strauss wrote:Thank you for the explanation. I was not aware that there are other words εἶμι and πάρειμι which are defined as “go” and “pass by.” What would be the noun forms of these words εἶμι and πάρειμι? Are they ουσία and παρουσία?
As far as I know, there are no noun forms based on the root εἶμι. If there were, it would be something like *παριουσία. As mentioned above, εἶμι is actually a future form used for ἔρχομαι and it's various compounds (ἐλεύσομαι more common in later Greek), and occasionally showing up in other tenses:
LSJ wrote:The ind. εἶμι usu. has pres. sense in Hom. (fut. Il.1.426, 18.280), but in Ion. Prose and Att. it serves as fut. to ἔρχομαι (q.v.), I shall go, shall come...
Liddell, H. G., Scott, R., Jones, H. S., & McKenzie, R. (1996). A Greek-English lexicon (p. 489). Oxford: Clarendon Press.
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Re: Two Πάρειμι Entries in the LSJ Lexicon

Post by jeidsath » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:36 pm

Barry Hofstetter wrote:As far as I know, there are no noun forms based on the root εἶμι. If there were, it would be something like *παριουσία.
But see our earlier thread on ἐπιούσιος
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