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Pharr group... let's join in!

Post by Aggelos » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:45 am

I would like to join this new group. I am a university researcher in the field of biochemistry but I remeber my classical studies with pleasure and can still read ancient greek and translate but I wouls also like to improve and broaden my knowledge.
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Post by Alex Green » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:00 pm

I would also like to join to the group for people using Homeric Greek: A Book for Beginners by Clyde Pharr. Now there is no such a group. The last one has been already closed. But if there are a lot of people wishing to joing this group, another one will be organized. So, we need more people. ;-)
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Post by Gonzalo » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:14 pm

You can count me as of yours. I am with Pahrr´s Homeric Greek and I consider well such proposition. But, I have a doubt. How would the group work if it were created?
Ι imagine that -like many of yours- we´ll have many problems with our pronunciation.


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Post by Paul » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:42 pm

Gonzalo,

Many at textkit have considerable experience running such groups. You needn't worry about that for now.

What you need to do is:

a. find enough people to participate (there will be attrition)
b. find someone (or two) to serve as guides

We have study group software, etc.

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Post by Gonzalo » Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:10 pm

Hi, Paul,
I know. I´ll expect for it and I´ll do what is on my hand but I suppose the group will work in English. It´s evident.

By the way, I visited your web: Congratulations.

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Guide need.

Post by Alex Green » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:55 pm

Does anyone know where we can find a guide? Maybe we should put an advertisement? ;-)
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Post by Gonzalo » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:36 pm

Putting an advertisement isn´t bad idea but the matter leans in where to put it.
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Post by megas_yiannakis » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:25 pm

ide be willing to join... ive started with pharr already but am up to a chapter were a 'good review' is recomended and i am still abit fuzzy on some consepts so would be very happy to join in :D

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Post by Gonzalo » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:30 pm

Great.

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Post by Alex Green » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:36 pm

Gonzalo wrote:Putting an advertisement isn´t bad idea but the matter leans in where to put it.
I wonder how the new group appears in the group list on http://www.textkit.com/groups/. Maybe we should put our advertisement there somehow? Besides we are still do not have any guide. :-(

megas_yiannakis wrote:... ive started with pharr already but am up to a chapter were a 'good review' is recomended ...
I am also working with my Pharr book now. I've already got up to lesson XIII but I still have some questions.
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Post by Paul » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:48 pm

See if you can get 8-10 people for your Pharr group. As I earlier hinted, you'll probably lose half of them.

The guides you seek are typically senior-ish members of textkit. Each and every one of them is aware that your group will need a guide. Each, including me, is probably casting about for reasons why (s)he can't serve as guide right now. But, in the end, some generous soul usually steps up and serves.....

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Post by perispomenon » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:31 pm

My Pharr-d group has kind of dwindled.. I have - some - room. But only for a limited group, which would be ok with corrections only once a week on Saturdays.

Since I took on a new job recently, I have to limit the number of any new group members to tutor. I say, for me, right now, the limit is 5 members.

Let me know if that is convenient.

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Post by Gonzalo » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:53 pm

How is the level of your group?

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Post by perispomenon » Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:02 pm

Pharr's is a course called "Homeric Greek for Beginners". All Pharr groups on this site, I think, are beginners groups.

I would say any new members could not join the Pharr-d group. I would say this would have to be a new group, with someone other than me setting up the schedule.

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Post by Alex Green » Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:07 pm

Now I am also very busy with my math that is why having corrections once (or twice) per week is rather convenient. But I hope that in summer we will be able to have more lessons.
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Post by Paul » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:28 pm

perispomenon wrote:My Pharr-d group has kind of dwindled.. I have - some - room. But only for a limited group, which would be ok with corrections only once a week on Saturdays.

Since I took on a new job recently, I have to limit the number of any new group members to tutor. I say, for me, right now, the limit is 5 members.

Let me know if that is convenient.
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Post by perispomenon » Wed May 09, 2007 8:24 pm

Paul wrote:Generous soul, indeed!
So easy to be generous if then no-one takes you up on your offer :-) (or were you being cynical? I am not quite sure)

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Post by Paul » Thu May 10, 2007 2:09 am

perispomenon wrote:
Paul wrote:Generous soul, indeed!
So easy to be generous if then no-one takes you up on your offer :-) (or were you being cynical? I am not quite sure)
I meant quite sincerely that you are a generous soul!

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Post by Bert » Thu May 10, 2007 8:46 am

perispomenon wrote:
Paul wrote:Generous soul, indeed!
So easy to be generous if then no-one takes you up on your offer :-) (or were you being cynical? I am not quite sure)
You couldn't know no one was going to take you up on your offer, the offer shows the generosity. (Unless you offered to appear generous and hoped no one would take you up on it but I refuse to believe that.)

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Post by perispomenon » Thu May 10, 2007 5:05 pm

Bert wrote:You couldn't know no one was going to take you up on your offer
I was hoping to also provoke a reaction from the original requesters. Well, I'll wait and see.

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Post by Gonzalo » Thu May 10, 2007 5:13 pm

Hello,
But only for a limited group, which would be ok with corrections only once a week on Saturdays.
Is it right now? I am a limited group. :D

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Post by Alex Green » Fri May 11, 2007 12:40 pm

So, we are going to have a group, aren't we?
It is great! :-)
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Post by Gonzalo » Fri May 11, 2007 5:31 pm

Alex, maybe it was a painful joke... :cry:

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Post by perispomenon » Sat May 12, 2007 7:11 am

Gonzalo wrote:Alex, maybe it was a painful joke... :cry:
Well, I am waiting for you to start. Perhaps we could make it simple by letting you join the Phar-d group after all. Then Paul would only have to create an account for you there.

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Post by Gonzalo » Sat May 12, 2007 8:25 am

Ok, fantastic but you ought to explain me how to start and where to go to.
Thank you.

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Post by Alex Green » Sat May 12, 2007 9:17 am

perispomenon wrote:Perhaps we could make it simple by letting you join the Phar-d group after all.
It would be great. :-) But then shall we start learning from the beginning or according with the Pharr-d schedule?
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Post by perispomenon » Sat May 12, 2007 10:12 am

Alex Green wrote:Shall we start learning from the beginning or according with the Pharr-d schedule?
You would start from the beginning, the Pharr-d schedule is too far ahead for you to be able to catch up, I would think.

I look at lessons posted for Pharr-d every saturday, so I would also pick up the lessons you two would be posting.

I suggest you ask Paul via this thread for an account in the Pharr-d group and that you subscribe to the Pharr-d mailinglist.

Then we can determine a schedule for you.

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Post by Bert » Sat May 12, 2007 4:15 pm

perispomenon wrote:
Alex Green wrote:Shall we start learning from the beginning or according with the Pharr-d schedule?
You would start from the beginning, the Pharr-d schedule is too far ahead for you to be able to catch up, I would think.

I look at lessons posted for Pharr-d every saturday, so I would also pick up the lessons you two would be posting.

I suggest you ask Paul via this thread for an account in the Pharr-d group and that you subscribe to the Pharr-d mailinglist.

Then we can determine a schedule for you.
I had suggested a while back to have a "perpetual Pharr Program." People start whenever they like to as long as there are not any more than a pre-determined total. Now we try to get a number of participants before we start a group and then we have 80% or more drop out.
The problem is that we would also have to have (a) perpetual guide(s).
I don't know if the time has come for this or not.

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Post by perispomenon » Sat May 12, 2007 4:23 pm

Bert wrote:I had suggested a while back to have a "perpetual Pharr Program." People start whenever they like to as long as there are not any more than a pre-determined total. Now we try to get a number of participants before we start a group and then we have 80% or more drop out.
The problem is that we would also have to have (a) perpetual guide(s).
I don't know if the time has come for this or not.
I suppose the 'perpetual guide' would be something to work out. But a 'perpetual Pharr program' is not a bad idea. Actually, a very good idea.

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Post by perispomenon » Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 pm

Gonzalo wrote:Is it right now?
Yes, as you wish.

It is up to you. The ball is in your court.

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Post by Gonzalo » Thu May 17, 2007 2:56 pm

Hi,
Perispomenon, how could I join in the group?... :roll:

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Post by Alex Green » Thu May 17, 2007 5:19 pm

Gonzalo wrote:How could I join in the group?...
I'd also like to know. ;-)
perispomenon wrote:I suggest you ask Paul via this thread for an account in the Pharr-d group and that you subscribe to the Pharr-d mailinglist.
How..? (a silly question)
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Post by Gonzalo » Thu May 17, 2007 5:35 pm

I'd also like to know.
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Post by perispomenon » Thu May 17, 2007 7:50 pm

Alex Green wrote:How..? (a silly question)
Ask a Pharr-d account via this thread (so, post here and ask for an account) or via a PM (personal message) to Paul.

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Post by Alex Green » Fri May 18, 2007 5:27 pm

Oh... Really. Thanks! It was actually the silliest question in the galaxy. :roll: But still I appreciate Your answer. :-)

So, I'm asking for an account. Please!
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Post by Gonzalo » Fri May 18, 2007 5:40 pm

Me too... please.

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Post by perispomenon » Fri May 18, 2007 7:43 pm

Hi Paul,

Could you tell our two joiners whereto they can email their preferred account names for Pharr-d?

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Post by Bert » Fri May 18, 2007 11:20 pm

perispomenon wrote:Hi Paul,

Could you tell our two joiners whereto they can email their preferred account names for Pharr-d?
I wonder if time restraints have kept Paul from following Textkit conversations.
This is the address we used before.
arachweb at optonline dot net
Remove the spaces and replace the at with @ and the dot with .
(I don't think he wants the address floating around, available for automatic "harvesting.")

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Post by perispomenon » Sat May 19, 2007 8:24 am

Bert wrote:
perispomenon wrote:(I don't think he wants the address floating around, available for automatic "harvesting.")
My thought.

Alex and Gonzalo, could you please send an email to the address Bert provided, stating that you would like an account for Pharr-d and the account name you would like to have?

You can then sign up for the mailinglist at http://textkit.com/mailman/listinfo/pharr-d_textkit.com

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Post by Gonzalo » Sat May 19, 2007 8:36 am

Oh, it´s fantastic. I am going to send it now. Thanks.

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