On ancient Greek music

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On ancient Greek music

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:33 pm

Fascinating to think we may be hearing the way it actually sounded...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hOK7bU0S1Y
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by jeidsath » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:44 am

If you've been following their progress on their blog, you'll find that this is a terrible lie:
οὐ καλόν, ὦ φίλε, πάντα λόγον ποτὶ τέκτονα φοιτῆν,
μηδ' ἐπὶ πάντ' ἄλλω χρέος ἰσχέμεν· ἀλλὰ καὶ αὐτός
τεχνᾶσθαι σύριγγα, πέλει δέ τοι εὐμαρὲς ἔργον.
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:37 pm

jeidsath wrote:If you've been following their progress on their blog, you'll find that this is a terrible lie:
Seriously, Joel? So you believe that these musicological archeologists are deliberately presenting falsehoods but otherwise know the truth? And professor D'Angour of Oxford, is he in on the deception, or is he just an incompetent dupe? I saw nothing in the blog or any of the videos which would indicate such a conspiracy to me, but maybe you saw something I didn't. Do you care to elaborate, and give us your reasons why this is a terrible lie?
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by jeidsath » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:43 pm

I meant to indicate by the colon that it's the Greek quotation (Bion of Smyrna) that is a terrible lie. Specifically:

"τεχνᾶσθαι σύριγγα, πέλει δέ τοι εὐμαρὲς ἔργον"

In fact, their work on recreating the mouthpieces has been painstaking and it has been no "εὐμαρὲς ἔργον."
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:49 pm

jeidsath wrote:I meant to indicate by the colon that it's the Greek quotation (Bion of Smyrna) that is a terrible lie. Specifically:

"τεχνᾶσθαι σύριγγα, πέλει δέ τοι εὐμαρὲς ἔργον"

In fact, their work on recreating the mouthpieces has been painstaking and it has been no "εὐμαρὲς ἔργον."
Face palm! :oops: I responded on my phone, and my eyes have never been what they used to be.
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by jeidsath » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:50 pm

My fault. I wasn't clear in my original post, and I'm glad that you forced me to explain.
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Re: On ancient Greek music

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:50 pm

:shock: :) :D
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