Odyssey 2, 42-46

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Odyssey 2, 42-46

Post by Bart » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:40 pm

οὔτε τινʼ ἀγγελίην στρατοῦ ἔκλυον ἐρχομένοιο,
ἥν χʼ ὑμῖν σάφα εἴπω, ὅτε πρότερός γε πυθοίμην,
οὔτε τι δήμιον ἄλλο πιφαύσκομαι οὐδʼ ἀγορεύω,
ἀλλʼ ἐμὸν αὐτοῦ χρεῖος, ὅ μοι κακὰ ἔμπεσεν οἴκῳ
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Telemachus is making his maiden speech in the assembly. What struck me was 'ἀλλʼ ἐμὸν αὐτοῦ χρεῖος'. αὑτοῦ surely refers to Telemachus, so we have something like: No, my own need etctera. But isn't it unusual for αὑτός to refer to the 1st person singular in this way?

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Re: Odyssey 2, 42-46

Post by Paul Derouda » Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:12 pm

Note that it's αὐτός, not αὑτός (=ὁ αὐτός), which I think doesn't occur in Homer. Nothing troubles me here, but perhaps you're experiencing interference from later Greek; I don't know if this would be ok in later Greek or if you should always use something like τὸ ἐμαυτοῦ χρεῖος, or more emphatically τὸ χρεῖος τὸ ἐμαυτοῦ.

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Re: Odyssey 2, 42-46

Post by Bart » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:25 am

Thanks!
It doesn't seem so strange on a second reading.

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