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Ὲστι?

Post by GreekGeek2 » Sat May 17, 2008 8:57 am

Χαί?ετε φίλοι,

does anyone of you know when the verbs φήμι and εἶμι are accented and in which way?

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Post by annis » Sat May 17, 2008 10:20 pm

GreekGeek2 wrote:does anyone of you know when the verbs φήμι and εἶμι are accented and in which way?
I'm not entirely sure I understand your question. What grammar are you using? Usually the convention with these verbs is that when a multi-syllable word is written with an accent on the final syllable that means it's enclitic.

For both φημί and εἰμί all forms of the present indicative except the 2sg (φῇς, εἶ) are enclitic. Otherwise they accent normally, except, as always, for some oddball behavior in some dialects.
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Post by GreekGeek2 » Mon May 19, 2008 6:28 am

I'm writing something in Attic, kinda how Plato wrote. I read something that the accent moves one syllable after specific words like ouk and stuff (sorry I don't have a Greek keyboard here at school). And isn't it only accented when the preceding word is properismenon or has an acute on the antepenult?
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Post by annis » Tue May 20, 2008 1:27 am


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Post by GreekGeek2 » Tue May 20, 2008 4:48 am

Kinda νηπιος of me, had Smyth lying next to me bed :oops:

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Post by annis » Tue May 20, 2008 12:14 pm

GreekGeek2 wrote:Kinda νηπιος of me, had Smyth lying next to me bed
But finding things in Smyth sometimes seems like a black art.
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Post by GreekGeek2 » Tue May 20, 2008 3:38 pm

You're right, there's too much information I think :D
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