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Gratitude?

Post by Lukas » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:25 am

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On page 119 of Unit 14 of Dr. Mastronarde's Introduction to Attic Greek, he states at the bottom of the page, "Χάρις
in the sense of gratitude is used in various verbal idioms, such as Χάριν ἔχειν . . ."

He gives an example, ""τούτοις τοῖς θεοῖς χάριν τῶν καλῶν δῶρων ἔχομεν."
He did not decline χάριν, but he did change ἔχειν to ἔχομεν.." So I guess the noun remains the same in this construction and the verb gets declined?
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Re: Gratitude?

Post by bedwere » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:58 am

χάριν is declined, since it is accusative of χάρις. I guess you expected a χάριτα, but the most common form is χάριν.
On the other hand, finite forms of verbs are not declined but conjugated (ἔχομεν).

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Re: Gratitude?

Post by Lukas » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:02 am

I thought χάριν would be in the nominative. I am confused as to why it is an accusative?
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Re: Gratitude?

Post by bedwere » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:21 am

The nominative is the subject case, the accusative the direct-object case. We (subject) have gratitude (direct object). Hence, the accusative.

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Re: Gratitude?

Post by Lukas » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:22 am

So χάριν is the object of ἔχομεν?
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Post by bedwere » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:19 am

Lukas wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:22 am
So χάριν is the object of ἔχομεν?
Yes, it is.

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Re: Gratitude?

Post by Lukas » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:05 am

Ευχαριστώ!
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Re: Gratitude?

Post by Barry Hofstetter » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:13 am

Note that χάρις is irregular. In the singular:

N. χάρις
G. χάριτος
D. χάριτι
A. χάριν

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